A paradoxical perception in the Pāli discourses?

[Sunyo]

@knigarian

And this statement unfortunately is simply mistaken: the merely presence of living body in the field of consciousness isn’t synonymous with the state of bhava.

Being an arahant is still a state of bhava, it is said in SN22.76. (See also here.)

“Taint of being” is translated as “defilement of desire to be reborn” by Sujato.

Either way, don’t you think Iti44 is quite clear when it directly connects the cessation of bhava with parinibbāna, not with enlightenment.

@Dunlop

I remember reading a sutta about bhava I recall described bhava as consciousness “established” in a sensual, material or immaterial element.

This is AN3.76, which is usually understood to be about rebirth. The establishing of consciousness in a certain realm means it getting reborn there, producing a new bhava.