Almost all annihilationists believe in rebirth (all annihilationists believe in a Self)

[Dhabba]

@am7

@NgXinZhao

First get right view of Nibbāna,

Then it is the direct seeing of nibbān

How about the heart release through love or emptiness, nothingness, signless.
Would this rightly be called temporary freedom?
And unshakable heart release would be permanent freedom?

In AN10.219

The heart’s release by love developed in this way leads to non-return for a wise mendicant here who has not penetrated to a higher freedom.

It is interesting that in this sutta the heart release developed in this way is stated to lead to non-return. Although there is additional instruction in this sutta. Maybe that is the reason?

Hello @am7 We recently discussed this:

@Dhabba

• Is the act of spreading metta all over the world dukkha?

How is this even painful, stressful or unsatisfactory?

They meditate spreading a heart full of love to one direction, and to the second, and to the third, and to the fourth. In the same way above, below, across, everywhere, all around, they spread a heart full of love to the whole world—abundant, expansive, limitless, free of enmity and ill will.

@NgXinZhao

For spreading metta, since you already accepted that impermanence means dukkha, so too the metta spreading is dukkha due to it being impermanent.

I think this is a way too extreme view of anicca, dukkha & anatta…