An arahant without dhamma knowledge?

[Viveka]

@Pison

I am going to be honnest with brother @Mat.
I don’t consider him as a friend, because we might have some principles in common (all beings do); but I see myself applying them differently.

@Pison

MN139 & MA169 examine what types of speech should better not be employed. They agree that:

• untrue and unbeneficial words should under all circumstances be avoided,
• true but unbeneficial worlds are also better not spoken,
• true and beneficial words can be spoken at the right time.

And a great lesson I just had was

@Sujith

I think that the way in which a point is put forward needs to be along a median. From MN139 :

And how is there neither flattering nor rebuking, and just teaching Dhamma? You don’t say: ‘Pleasure linked to sensuality is low, crude, ordinary, ignoble, and pointless. All those who indulge in such happiness are beset by pain, harm, stress, and fever, and they are practicing the wrong way.’ Rather, by saying this you just teach Dhamma: ‘The indulgence is a principle beset by pain, harm, stress, and fever, and it is the wrong way.’

You don’t say: ‘Pleasure linked to sensuality is low, crude, ordinary, ignoble, and pointless. All those who have broken off such indulgence are free of pain, harm, stress, and fever, and they are practicing the right way.’ Rather, by saying this you just teach Dhamma: ‘Breaking off the indulgence is a principle free of pain, harm, stress, and fever, and it is the right way.’