Bhante Dhammika on the Buddha's final meal and illness

Dear SuttaCentral community,

Bhante Dhammika asked me to post this essay of his here on his behalf. Here it is, with links added where appropriate:


In Bhante @Sujato’s very readable translation of the Mahāparinibbāna Sutta he offers a new take on the difficult Pāli term sūkaramaddava. He suggests that maddava, the second part of the compound, may mean overripe or withered, and that the Buddha’s last meal was aged pork, not tender pork as is more widely assumed. He explains that ‘it is a common practice to allow meat to sit for a while to become tender and “high” for extra flavor when cooked. But this can lead to a proliferation of dangerous bacteria unless properly cooked, and such seems to be the case here’. This interesting idea is worth exploring further.

Meat is sometimes hung for four or five days, or sometimes up to two weeks, for the reasons Bhante gives, a practice called aging in English. However, that such meat caused the Buddha’s demise has a few problems. It is true that aging ‘is a common practice’ at least in England and France, but was it so in 5th/4th century BCE India? It is unsafe to assume that European practices are done in other cultures. I am unaware of any evidence that aging was known or done in ancient India. The opposite may be the case. Lawmakers such as Āpastamba and Gautama stipulate that sour (śuktāni) meat must not be eaten (1.17.17; 17.14). The Sanskrit word probably includes fermented, stale, off or aged. It could be argued that such rules were only stipulated for the three highest castes and would not have applied to Cunda who was low caste. But widespread concern about ‘pure’ food in Indian culture likely means that all castes would have shunned meat that was not freshly slaughtered. In Europe, the cooler climate and the ability to keep flies off the aging meat, means that the chances of consuming unsafe meat are minimal. Country houses used to have (some may still have), cellars where they could keep the temperature below 40°F to prevent the growth of bacteria. Sujato calculates that the Buddha died sometime between December and January when daytime temperatures in Bihar range from 70°to 73°F, which would be very unsuitable for aging meat safely, if his calculations are correct. If the traditional month is accepted the temperatures would have made the meat putrid by the second day.

Would Cunda have known about aging meat? Being a low caste metal worker would he have cared about the niceties of tenderness and flavor? Would he have had a fly-proof place with a suitable temperature where he could keep the pork for a few days? I doubt it. India’s climate makes it probable that meat kept for even a day in such heat would start to smell, become fly-blown and be considered unfit for consumption. For all these reasons I think Bhante Sujato’s suggestion that aged pork caused the Buddha’s demise is unlikely.

In my Footprints in the Dust, I give another possible explanation of what may have killed the Buddha. Shifting attention from the meaning of sūkaramaddava I focus instead on the Buddha’s symptoms. That the Buddha’s main symptoms were exudative diarrhoea (lohita pakkhandika) and sharp pain (pabāḷha vedanā), probably in the abdomen, suggests that he suffered from bacterial gastroenteritis. It usually takes at least twenty-four, sometimes forty-eight or even seventy-two hours for gastroenteritis symptoms to become apparent, which is why people mistakenly attribute the last thing they ate to any stomach or bowel problem they have. Thus, it may not have been sūkaramaddava that was responsible for the Buddha’s sickness but something he ate the day before or even several days before arriving in Pāvā. Further, there is no reason to assume that food was the problem. The Buddha would have been regularly rehydrating, and thus it is not at all improbable that he had drunk contaminated water before he arrived in Pāvā. Given that the Buddha had been sick while staying in Vesālī, that he had mentioned the only time he had a degree of physical comfort was when he went into deep meditation, and that he was eighty, it seems most likely that his death was due to a continuation of this earlier sickness, whatever it was, and gastroenteritis exacerbated by exhaustion and old age, rather than being due to the last thing he ate.

~ Bhante Dhammika

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To supplement the essay, here is a video on the very topic

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I remember that my neighbours used to dry Chinese sausages before Chinese Lunar New Year when the cold north wind was blowing south 30 years ago. The air was cold and dry enough for that to happen in Malaysia 30 years ago. I imagine that 2500 years ago, the climate in India might afford that if that was doable in Malaysia 30 years ago. But this is just a speculation.

But there is a reason to assume that the meal was the problem. In DN16:4.19.2

“Cunda, any pork on the turn that’s left over, you should bury it in a pit. I don’t see anyone in this world—with its gods, Māras, and Divinities, this population with its ascetics and brahmins, its gods and humans—who could properly digest it except for the Realized One.”

If that’s not the Buddhist way of saying the food is bad, I can’t imagine a more grandiose way to review bad food. In fact, I think every Buddhist should adopt this phrase for bad food review.

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This is me (KhBh) replying, not Bhante:

Most of Northern India where the Buddha was is not so close to the sea! I don’t think your experience of Malaysian weather nor of Chinese practices is terribly applicable here… Do you have evidence for an Indian tradition of such meat practices?

The food is inedible to others because it was offered specifically to the Buddha (see SN 7.9 or Snp 1.4).

And you ignore that the Buddha here explicitly declares that the Realized One could digest it. He also tells his disciples in the same sutta not to blame poor Cunda, as you seem eager to do:

someone may give rise to regret in Cunda the smith: ‘It’s your loss, respected Cunda, it’s your misfortune, in that the Realized One was fully quenched after eating his last almsmeal from you.’ You should dispel remorse in Cunda the smith…

#justiceForCunda! :laughing:

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Bhante S. Dhammika asked one of his archaeologist friend that question. It was practiced by people near Himalaya. But I’m not sure if that is applicable for everywhere else.

So, you mean I can’t use that phrase for bad food review?

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How, without using supernormal powers, or actually perhaps feeding poisoned food to others, can you claim certain food to be cannot be properly digested, even by gods? There are too much unverifiable claims to use as bad food review.

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never mind, the joke isn’t obvious

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For what it’s worth, I laughed out loud when you suggested the sutta quote as a potential Google or Yelp restaurant review… laughing the most at your reply to Khemarato.bhikkhu — that was classic deadpan humour. I appreciate your sense of humour. :+1:

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Bhante Sujato doesn’t seem to be (necessarily) suggesting that ‘aged pork’ caused the Buddhas demise, but rather more conservatively that ‘aged pork’ was the last meal of the Buddha.

What are now considered highly refined culinary experiences were once necessities for the preservation of meats. The ‘tenderness and flavor’ are biproducts of this particular preservation method. Caves were a common place for hanging meats in ancient times as I understand it, although I don’t know if this is true around Bihar in the time of the Buddha. I know that there are caves in the area, but I don’t know how suitable they would’ve been for meat hanging at the time?

This is very interesting. From a basic taste point of view ‘aged meat’ rather tends towards umami (especially when cooked over an open flame) rather than sour. A sour taste would probably mean that the meat was going off rather than being preserved by the aging process.

Interesting points that bring up more questions.

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Hah, I thought it was funny too!

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Would it be shocking to anyone that not all versions of the Parinirvana Sutra include the episode of bad food at Cunda’s place? It turns out there is no mention of it at all in the Mulasarvastivada version of the sutra. I’m drafting it currently from the Chinese translation of their Vinaya. Everything goes quite smoothly at Cunda’s house as it would at any other meal with a layperson. No mystery pork dish or anything like that. The main event in that section of the story is the Buddha and Cunda exchanging verses with each other.

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What conclusion would you draw from that?

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The version of the sutra that I’m translating is very similar to the Theravada and Dharmaguptaka versions. There’s differences, of course, it’s a late sutra in Buddhist history that has been built up to a very large size, and the Mulasarvastivada version is the largest. But beyond that, it’s clearly descended from the same version as DN 16. Meaning that the differences between the common events like the last alms meal at Cunda’s are probably the result later additions or edits in the different traditions. The neutral conclusion would be that the story about what happened at Cunda’s is later storytelling rather than an accurate account of what happened. What the versions have in common is only that Cunda gave the final offerings to the Buddha and the monks. The rest is quite different.

DA 2 agrees with DN 16 that Cunda cooked something special for the Buddha, but it’s called “tree ears” - likely referring to a kind of fungus that grows on wood in a flat ear-like shape. The Buddha doesn’t specifically request it of him. Instead, when Cunda gives it to him, the Buddha tells Cunda not to serve it to anyone else. Cunda puts it away, but an elderly monk apparently takes it for himself. Then, as in the Mulasarvastivada version, Cunda and the Buddha engage in a conversation in verse.

Just looking at these three versions (there are a couple more), we can see how much divergence there is between the stories. I would guess that it’s mostly added at some later time and each tradition evolved it over time in different ways. The Buddha went to Cunda’s with the monks and they had a meal there. That’s what they all have in common.

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Usually I would think there’s wisdom in thinking an earlier version has less details and events, etc.

In this particular case though, I can’t see why monks would think to make up a story about Buddha being poisened and dying a bloody painful death.

On the other hand, I can quite understand leaving that bit out just because it might be perceived as conflicting with the image of Buddha as conqueror of dukkha.

So I don’t know the particulars of the divergences, but being a touchy and troublesome subject might be enough to explain certain differences maybe?

So in this case, why would we not subscribe to “Whatever unflattering thing is there, it’s very likely true” maxim?

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Are there any ancient commentaries to the texts that don’t have that part of the story? Because I could imagine compilers thinking that part of the story would better remain as part of the commentary. If the sutta is a composite as some speculate, then that seems like a possibility.

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Who said anything about the Buddha being poisoned?

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I heard of the assumption that Mahayana wants to preserve the image of the Buddha being a vegetarian, therefore it had to be a plant based food. Apology to any Mahayana Buddhists here if I offend you, it’s not intentional. I’m a vegetarian too.

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Then Cunda said to the Buddha, “Sir, may the Buddha together with the mendicant Saṅgha please accept tomorrow’s meal from me.” The Buddha consented with silence.

“Cunda, please serve me with the pork on the turn that you’ve prepared. And serve the mendicant Saṅgha with the other foods.”

“Cunda, any pork on the turn that’s left over, you should bury it in a pit. I don’t see anyone in this world—with its gods, Māras, and Divinities, this population with its ascetics and brahmins, its gods and humans—who could properly digest it except for the Realized One.”

After the Buddha had eaten Cunda’s meal, he fell severely ill with bloody dysentery, struck by dreadful pains, close to death.

There’s several infections related to poorly prepared pork — Yersiniosis, Trichinosis, etc.

To me, this exposition implies Buddha had died from food poisoning, most likely from Cunda’s meal.

I think it’s fair to say Buddha is shown as being aware of this being a meat unfit to eat (in general).

Whether this poisoning was intentional or not, hard to say, but Buddha does say:

“Now it may happen, Ānanda, that someone may give rise to regret in Cunda the smith: ‘It’s your loss, respected Cunda, it’s your misfortune, in that the Realized One was fully quenched after eating his last almsmeal from you.’ You should dispel remorse in Cunda the smith like this: ‘You’re fortunate, respected Cunda, you’re so very fortunate, in that the Realized One was fully quenched after eating his last almsmeal from you. I have heard and learned this in the presence of the Buddha.

Posting on behalf of Bhante S. Dhammika

Dear Stu, the ancient Indians certainly did preserve meat – by salting and drying, as I detail in my book Begging Bowl and Banquet; Food and Drink in the Buddha’s India. As for caves in or around Kusinara, I know the region well and there are no exposed rocky outcrops north of the Ganges in Bihar where there could be caves. And how’s Bodhi getting along?

His book “Begging Bowl and Banquet” will be uploaded to budblooms.org soon

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I don’t think it has anything to do with Mahayanists. There are debates that Buddhists should be strictly vegetarian in some Mahayana sutras. The sutras I mentioned above aren’t Mahayana sutras, they are Agamas. That said, there was some point in history when vegetarianism was adopted by Buddhists in general, and that may be expressed in DA 2 by having the dish be a fungus instead of meat. It’s possible.

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