Can I get suggestions on content about friendship, relationships and loneliness?

I’ve read some other topics in this forum on the matter, but I wanted to get deeper into the subject.

You see, what first moved me to start this topic was a specific problem I’m having, but once I began thinking on how to talk about this, I just noticed a lot other problems that comes with it. I fear that my own concept around friendship and relationship is the reason for it, so I’ll try to first immerse myself into this before thinking about isolated cases.

My request here is for anything that can guide me around this subject (friendships, relationships and loneliness), such as Suttas, books, podcasts, essays, really anything. Even online groups or websites would do.

Even if they are about the most basic levels of comprehension, I’m digging in with an open mind and without previous concepts. I want to really immerse into the subject and deepen my understanding before looking into the isolated cases in my life.

Thank you for your time.

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Perhaps Comprehensive Index of Pāli Suttas might be useful to get a foundation in the Buddha’s thoughts on friendship.

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Hi @AbelAntonio,

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This is such a good way to seach the Suttas! I didn’t know it, thank you so much.

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There’s this open access textbook:

Bhante Dhammika’s reflections on loving relationships:

The title is based on the simile you’ll find in MN 31. For all the suttas I’ve tagged as being about relationships, see this search query.

Here’s an academic article, the punchline is right in the title: Mindfulness Attenuates the Negative Personal Consequences of Everyday Dips in Relationship Satisfaction

I enjoyed this old Ezra Klein interview with Alison Gopnik.

The most impactful work on relationships for me when I was becoming a young man was Sondheim’s musical Into the Woods

Hope some of that helps! :blush:

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Hi @AbelAntonio

I hope this isn’t too presumptious but I have had a lot of personal experience with having suffered from extreme loneliness for much of my life. Our personal situations may be different but I believe at the core the resolution is the same.

Before Buddhism I spent a long time studying psychology, sociology, neurology, a lot of the -ologies trying to find out what was wrong and how to fix it. I spent a lot of energy attempting to socialize in ways that were counter to my values and nature, and shaming myself at every failure. This feedback loop of constant social rejection, or only being involved in what seemed to be one-sided toxic relationships left a large hole in my heart. Materially I have been blessed, but emotionally I was broken with no signs of escape.

The Stoic mindset helped cope through those hard times, but that’s all it ever was - coping. All the research, self help guides, exercise, career progression, and shallow relationships never made a meaningful impact on my emotional well-being. It wasn’t until I came across Buddhism and discovered the Hungry Ghost phenomenon and then spent over a year of intense practice of metta and the Tibetan metta adaptation called Tonglen that I began to heal.

The Buddha teaches us that our craving is the cause of our suffering and this is never more apparent than when we crave something so innate to the human experience but can not seem to fulfill it for whatever reason it may be. In today’s world this is a serious problem, it’s often referred to as the loneliness epidemic and for good reason.

The Buddha said that who we associate with is one of the most important contributors to our wellbeing. When deprived of meaningful relationships we spiral into darkness. But at the core of the problem is the idea that it’s our relationship with others that can save us when in actuality it is only our relationship with ourselves that can ever do so.

During my quest to heal and find meaningful relationships I found that the most important elements were doing daily gratitude prostrations, daily metta thinking of every person I’d ever met and wishing them well, as well as a lot of Tonglen to and from myself whenever the memories of the past would take over. In doing this I was able to establish a sense of connectedness to the world and found increasing moments of contentment and joy. I also started focusing on putting myself in places where I was more likely to meet individuals who shared my values of morality, simplicity, nature, and the newfound love of spirituality. I joined a local sangha as well as a few hiking groups, and did volunteering for hospice and prisoners. When doing so I put all my efforts into practicing the four frames of reference and just trying to be a pleasant and uplifting, but not performative, person to be around with no expectations. It has been a bumpy road but I’ve made the most meaningful connections of my life through this process and recommend this kind of practice and community egnagement to others who feel isolated and lonely.

Ultimately I had to learn to love myself unconditionally which I was able to do by focusing on my own person morality and diving into the Paramis and how to develop them further. I still do metta regularly and I spend a lot of my day contemplating the beauty of the Dharma. I’m now in a relationship with my best friend, but the hungry ghost still sneaks its ugly head up every now and then. In those moments I recall the Buddha’s advice on stilling the mind, or I recall an inspiring Dharma story that contains elements of the divine and let myself feel inspired by the wonder of the universe and how amazingly accurate the Buddha has been in his descriptions of the way things are at every level I’ve investigated.

I hope this helps, and if you’re interested my partner and I have a Dharma book club that we do as a email correspondence with a prisoner. You’re welcome to join us if you’re interested in that sort of thing, we are on the first book - The Four Noble Truths by Ajahn Sumedho. Feel free to message me with your email if you’d like to participate.

-Frank

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Great! Sahdu!! Amazing! Thanks for the post!

Hello, What’s a good friend? I might have had a few good friends. I might have been an okay friend. I’ve definitely become confused about both of these Interpersonal Dynamics and as a result become terribly confused, lonely, Upset, Depressed, Discombobulated, angry ect..

This link takes you to a book by a beloved teacher. Metta is a big word in some contemporary Buddhist circles, this teacher translates Metta as goodwill. The section in this book explains Metta/Goodwill in a way which for me is revolutionary.

I hope this is helpful.

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Sahdu Sahdu Sahdu

Great resources. Thankyou for your post.

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The Buddhist Society of Western Australia has a search function you can use with various keywords:
https://bswa.org/

Here’s a talk by Ajahn Brahm on loneliness:
https://bswa.org/teaching/loneliness-ajahn-brahmavamso/

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This is a cool site:

I had to type “friendship” into the search a second time to load the results.

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Thank you so much for all these resources, they’re truly helping a lot! I’ve been seeing a lot of progress along the recent days.

I’m meditating a lot on what you wrote. Practicing compassion towards others and to myself is helping me to deal with the feelings and, by doing this, I feel I’m being able to see the matter more clearly - just like the feelings were a fog blocking my vision of the truth. Without them pushing me down, I can understand everything more clearly.

I’ll send you a message to be part of this book club, I’m really interest!

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That’s great, I’m glad you’re finding success with the practice and are interested in doing the book club. We look forward to hearing from you. :folded_hands:

I will echo StaresAtTrees’ comments on the power of metta and related qualities. These “warm” qualities—such as generosity, the brahmaviharas, gratitude, forgiveness, kindness, gentleness, and reverence for the Triple Gem—are so important. They are an integral part of the Noble Eightfold Path as part of right intention.

One of the most beautiful passages from the suttas features Venerable Anuruddha and his friends—all arahants—being visited by the Buddha. You can feel the warmth they all show to one another. We can take a page from these great beings’ books on the ideal way to relate to one another.

Anuruddha heard the park keeper conversing with the Buddha, and said to him, “Don’t keep the Buddha out, good park keeper! Our Teacher, the Blessed One, has arrived.” Then Anuruddha went to Nandiya and Kimbila, and said to them, “Come forth, venerables, come forth! Our Teacher, the Blessed One, has arrived!”

Then Anuruddha, Nandiya, and Kimbila came out to greet the Buddha. One received his bowl and robe, one spread out a seat, and one set out water for washing his feet. The Buddha sat on the seat spread out, and washed his feet. Those venerables bowed and sat down to one side.

The Buddha said to Anuruddha, “I hope you’re keeping well, Anuruddha and friends; I hope you’re all right. And I hope you’re having no trouble getting almsfood.”

“We’re keeping well, Blessed One, we’re getting by. And we have no trouble getting almsfood.”

“I hope you’re living in harmony, appreciating each other, without quarreling, blending like milk and water, and regarding each other with kindly eyes?”

“Indeed, sir, we live in harmony like this.”

“But how do you live this way?”

“In this case, sir, I think, ‘I’m fortunate, so very fortunate, to live together with spiritual companions such as these.’ I consistently treat these venerables with kindness by way of body, speech, and mind, both in public and in private. I think, ‘Why don’t I set aside my own ideas and just go along with these venerables’ ideas?’ And that’s what I do. Though we’re different in body, sir, we’re one in mind, it seems to me.”

And the venerables Nandiya and Kimbila spoke likewise, and they added: “That’s how we live in harmony, appreciating each other, without quarreling, blending like milk and water, and regarding each other with kindly eyes.”

-MN 31

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Thank you for this topic. I did a lot of reflection on what did Buddha meant when he spoke to Ananda, ‘Spiritual friendship’ is not just an important part, but the the whole of holy life! Don’t remember the Sutta. Most fundamental relationship is relating with our own mind, feelings, perceptions, habits and such so we can understand and relate with other people with wisdom and compassion. Metta and self-compasssion has been the ground of my mindful-meditation practice. Most of our early social-cultural conditioning is not to express or even experience difficult emotion as they make us feel vulnerable and unsafe, yet if we remain curious, patient and brave in our practice and allow our difficult emotions to flow through us even for a few minutes clarity, calm and insight comes though after some time. I was just listening to this Tagore song in Bengali on being brave in the face of difficulties and loneliness. May be you will enjoy.

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What a beautiful, meaningful song. :heart:

“Sir, good friends, companions, and associates are half the spiritual life.”

“Not so, Ānanda! Not so, Ānanda! Good friends, companions, and associates are the whole of the spiritual life. A mendicant with good friends, companions, and associates can expect to develop and cultivate the noble eightfold path.