Dhammā - To Be or Not to Be

Are dhammā real in your view? This is one of the main dividing lines between the various Buddhist traditions. What do you think? Do you think it matters?

Both conventional and ultimate reality exist concurrently, but the conventional doesn’t have ultimate authority:

" “An arahant monk,
one who is done,
effluent-free, bearing his last body:

Would he say, ‘I speak’?
Would he say, ‘They speak to me’?”

“An arahant monk,
one who is done,
effluent-free, bearing his last body:

He would say, ‘I speak’;
would say, ‘They speak to me.’

Skillful,
knowing harmonious gnosis
with regard to the world,
he uses expressions
just as expressions.”

—Samyutta Nikaya 1.25

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Depends on what is meant by ‘Real’.

The real difficulty is that most people are talking past each other. They really don’t try to bridge the gap between different interpretations. Since they really believe their own stable, constructed viewpoint as real and existing, they feel that the different viewpoints of others are not really real. They miss the very real Elephant in the room because they are so busy holding on really hard to the tail or the ear or the leg… :grimacing: :rofl: :joy:

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