Difference between the Buddha's path and what is taught to others?

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@Thito

The suttas show that Samma Sambuddhas are exceptionally rare time wise,

Well yes. But time has ‘no discernable beginning’ (at least, according to the Buddha), so there’s an awful lot of time available. One might suggest an infinity of time with an infinity of Buddhas if even the Buddha can’t see the beginning?

There’s a big discussion on finite and infinite number of beings here. I must say it all got quite confusing for me … (In)finite number of beings

@Thito

99% of Buddhas are pacceka Buddhas, it’s extremely rare for a Buddha to become a Samma Sambuddha.

1% of infinity is a very large number too.

@Thito

Also, if you look at the list of Gotamas past life, they’re all in the indus valley region. So it seems like all Buddhas are from the Indus Valley region. So if someone is constantly reborn outside of that region, there’s even a less chance of the already extremely rare chance to meet a Samma Sambuddha.

I don’t know. He’s got quite a loud voice

https://suttacentral.net/an3.80/en/sujato

Then you have the concept of multiple world (or solar) systems in mn115, which can have different Buddhas at the same time. And communication between those systems in dn1 where the other systems shake at the exposition.

@Thito

So for someone to ordain under a samma Sambuddha and not become an ariya, or at least go to hell and become a buddha later if their karma-vipaka is really bad, I think is probably zero. I don’t think a Samma Sambuddha would even allow monks under him to not become an ariya, I don’t think it’s even possible technically, as that would imply the weakness of a Samma Sambuddha

I don’t know if this was addressed to me, but I haven’t actually disputed that, although I might.

If you are an ariya, you can’t go to hell, right? And if you haven’t entered the stream then nothing is guaranteed in your future?