Hi, i’m just clicking around the interface and was wondering if there’s way to get the full expanded pali of original (with the repetitions) of the original pali? e.g 56.11 SuttaCentral at the “..pe..” bits?
EDIT: (I don’t want to be missing any “udapadi’s” when I chant this like aloko ) lol
I could def find original elsewhere just would be handy to know
Thank you venerable, I want to explore for myself if there’s like distinct rythmic sound or rap like repetitions or musical quality underlying and if not chanting the whole expansions of the sutta first time is how they had it stick “first time” when maybe only had a chance for once recitation, etc.
(Edit: like they would of heard it so was going to try a text to speech hindi accent)
(Edit: I think this is the expanded being chanted https://www.pirith.org/download/Dhammachakka.mp3 ) (edit: I think that’s the srilankan child or sangha member that remembers this from past life and analysed by bhikkhu analayo and bhikkhu bodhi )
(Edit: I don’t know who that Alex Genaud of Oslo is who made the buddhadust site but looking around reminds me of like the most adept folk I met at a CCC like a bit of a genius with excellent taste in the organisation of “the informations” cryptography, art, sound, and related things. Probably I’m guessing turned up at ccc at some point or found collision of md5 to create a cert authority in ssl before that was a thing or sumfing hehe .
When chanted in Sri Lanka, not only are the repetitions in SN56.11 chanted out, but they include all the heavenly realms that are left out of the canonical text.
Imagine like just hanging out deva realm, hear this news from like a “lower” form, hehe. Also the wheel, like first time OMG, no other suttas, also like this is the curiosity about the musicality or ring, for the oral transmission, and what kodanna realised, is that the relationship with the wheel? (the hollow axle, the things that arise nature to end, the middle way?), hehe
It is about peyyalas, but I think arkiuat’s work (and my derivative layer) is to some degree point-adjacent: it reconstructs sections of text from other suttas, not internal peyyalas.
For example, sections of DN13 outlining the gradual training are reconstructed with the relevant section from DN2, but the section on cultivating the brahmaviharas is still truncated (with descriptions of the first and last qualities—metta and upekkha—given in full, and ellipses given for the middle qualities). The example text in the OP, SN56.11, only has internal truncations.
As the line of interest seems to be connected to chanting, chanting books would be the obvious place to look for common chants where the peyyalas are typically expanded. Eg:
Even these not only give standard deva rejoicing, but also truncate the jubilant cry they let off, so if you like your Dhamma wheel turned with enhanced deva celebration then you’d need something like: