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I’ll start first. :slight_smile:

It was a sutta where a group of outsider (ascetics?) ask Buddhists something like “What’s the basis of Dhamma?”

The answer was something like “Buddha is the root, mindfulness is the support, liberation is its fruit”, something like that
 Does it ring a bell for anyone?

Is it Mƫlakasutta AN 10.58?

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Yes! Thanks a lot. :slight_smile:

It is a short sutta where the Buddha taught a Naga: the highest happiness is freedom from desires.

Been trying to find it for a long time. Found it in 2014 and lost it.

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ud2.1?

https://suttacentral.net/search?query=highest%20happiness

In this case because Bhante Anandajoti used the exact phrase it popped up there. The search feature isn’t perfect, but it does often get what you need.

ETA: It’s now in the CIPS under nāgas>Buddha teaches

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Thank you so much, but the key words here are

After Bhante recited it in 2014 at Bodh Gayā, I found the verse on the internet but forgot the name of the sutta and could never find it again. :sob:

So are you saying that isn’t the sutta? The verse says:

Dispassion for the world is happiness

That really sounds like what you are after, just a different translation.

There aren’t many suttas where the Buddha teaches a nāga. Further, that sutta happened at Bodhgaya, so it makes sense for someone to have recited it there.

ETA: Here is a translation by John Ireland that would have been around in 2014.

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Teaching not to a naga, but to a deva, SN1.69:

“Desire is what binds the world.
By the removing of desire it’s freed.
With the giving up of desire,
all bonds are severed.”

But I find Ven. @Snowbird 's proposal more convincing because it was actually taught in Bodhgaya.

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Wow! This is super cool, much appreciated, thank you :anjal:

Hmmmm We cannot trust our memory.

What I remember is the phrase ‘freedom from desires’, but
 I could be wrong.

Bhante @sujato recited this teaching at Bodhgaya in Feb 2014. It was the most powerful teaching that I’ve ever received. But
 stupid me cannot remember it correctly!

Thank you, Venerable @Snowbird .

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Perhaps trust but verify? With sutta passages I think it’s easy to mix in things from the context of where we heard it. For example if we hear the passage in a Dhamma talk it wouldn’t be surprising to have the preacher explain the passage using different words (or expand into other areas) but the hook we have is who the Buddha was talking to.

Not saying that happened in your case, or that there in fact exists a passage that better matches the one you remembered.

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I think this is the case here! :grin: :laughing: :rofl:

I’ve heard that there is a Sutta where the Buddha says something along the lines of, you cannot get enough of sex, sleep and food. Desire for them isn’t quelled by doing them. Can someone help me find the Sutta?

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CIPS >sexual intercourse>desire for is never satisfied> AN3.108

But this is sleep, alcohol, and sex. Maybe there is a food one out there.

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Sādhu! Thanks Venerable!

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There’s also Leigh Brasington’s sutta index here, which I’ve found super helpful: Sutta Indexes - NOTE: it recommends in red at the very top to read the disclaimer before using the index.

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Hello :waving_hand: ,

I’m trying to find suttas that talking about the dhamma follower (dhammānusari) and faith follower (saddhānusari).

So far I have:

MN22, MN70, SN55.24, SN55.25, SN25.1, SN25.2, SN25.3, SN48.12, SN48.18, AN5.151-153

They also get a mention in MN34& MN65.

Specifically looking for descriptions of how they differ from a stream winner.

I also found this thread: Faith-Follower & Dhamma-Follower

Thank you :folded_hands:

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Hi Venerable,
I think that you have found a good lot of them.
CIPS has these for dhammanusari and these for saddhanusari. It seems there might even be some in your list which @snowbird hasn’t captured (from SN55)

I see you haven’t got DN28 in your list though. This explanation just seems to complicate things further though, not answer your question!

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There was this sutta that spoke of how Ascetics would have 'DittiRaaga’ and how lay people would have 'KaamaRaaga’.

Anyone remember something like that?