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I asked the people in the study group, and they pointed me to sutta AN 8.61, which has almost the same content as the sutta that Dogen showed me, MN 29.

But AN 8.61 doesn’t mention concentration levels.

So I think I misunderstood the sutta.

:anjal:

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Hello, I am looking for a sutta where a monkey imitates the behavior of pratyekabuddhas and then leads ascetics to liberation.

In Abhidharmakosha-bhashyam vol II p. 483 Vasubandhu tells this story:

According to another opinion, there are also Prthagjanas who have realized, in the vehicle of the Sravakas, the nirvedhabhagtyas (vi.20); in the course of a subsequent existence, by themselves, they will realize the Way. The masters who follow this opinion find an argument in the Purvakatha where they read, “Five hundred ascetics cultivated painful austerities on a mountain. A monkey who had lived in the company of Pratyekabuddhas imitated the attitudes of the Pratyekabuddhas in front of them. These ascetics then imitated the monkey and, they say, obtained the Bodhi of the Pratyekabuddhas.” It is dear, say these masters, that
these ascetics were not Aryans, Sravakas; for, if they had previously obtained the result of the Sravakas, namely liberation from rules and rituals (filavratapardmarsa, v. French trans, p. 18), they would not have given themselves up later to painful austerities.

Purvakatha, a conjectural translation of snon gyi gtam; Hsiian-tsang has pen-shih, Paramartha, pen-hsing ching p. 222a (purvacarydsutra). Saeki refers to the Vibhasa, TD 27, p. 241b2, to Balapandita (“Weisse und Thor”), Chap, xiii, and to Ashokarajasutra. This story is recounted in fact in Divya, 349, an excerpt from the Sutra of Ashoka as we have seen in Przyluski, Legende d’Ashoka, 310 (JAs. 1914,2, 520)

I tried searching the web for these texts, but unfortunately, I haven’t been able to find any suitable links to the specified texts so far. Can somebody help?

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Greetings,
I’m looking for a sutta, probably in the Therigatha, about a bhikkhuni who is enamoured with her own beauty. The Buddha creates a vision of her form, for her to see. The vision then ages and decays in front of the bhikkhuni, ridding her of her vanity. This isn’t listed in CIPS under vanity :frowning:

This could be apadana. :person_shrugging:

Thanks

Are you thinking about Arahant Khemā? Former queen of King Bimbisara?

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It seems similar to what I remember. So probably. Thanks

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Maybe this is Thig5.4, you can look for the story in commentary for bhikkhuni Sundari Nanda

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Yes, I think that this was the sutta I was thinking of. Thank you.

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I’m vaguely remembering a sutta where a brahmin (or maybe a deva?) asks the Buddha a question in a haughty way and the Buddha replies with a verse that is very pithy, knowing they won’t understand it in order to humble them. They are appropriately humbled and ask for an explanation and then are taught the Dhamma. Is this ringing a bell for anyone? Thanks!

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How about SN 7.15 with the brahmin named Stuck-Up? However, unlike in your description, he understands the Buddha’s verse immediately.

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Hmm thank you. It’s a wonderful sutta! But not the one I’m looking for… That he doesn’t understand at first and is confused is quite the point… I mean, there is the Angulimala story which is similar, though I doubt I would have confused him with a generic brahmin! :sweat_smile: :thinking:

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It’s a wild guess, maybe it’s SN 1.20

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