Thank you. That worked.
I picked you up at @sujato.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy
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OK, Help please (from a non-techie, so hope the following makes sense):
I set up at BS and was able to follow sujato, delightedbydhamma and readingfaithfully. I then set up at M and was able to follow the same trio.
But with one difference: M offered me one account each for delightedbydhamma and readingfaithfully, but besides offering me sujato on M, it also offered me sujato on BS.
Is it possible for me to cancel my BS membership and see everything I wish to see from BS on the Mastodon? Or do I wait for delightedbydhamma and readingfaithfully to do something additional that Bhante has already done?
I’m not understanding the problem. It sounds like you are following all three on both platforms. So you could use either one.
The reason (I think) that you found two on Mastodon for Bhante Sujato is because he has an old actual Mastondon account that he isn’t using and a new mirror of his Bluesky account.
I can say that as far as readingfaithfully the same material is posted to both (automagically) and neither have much interaction with other accounts.
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If this is the case, then there’s not a problem. You’re saying that on Mastodon I should be able to follow any BS account?
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That I’m not sure of. I was just talking about those three accounts. But it sounds like Ven. @Pasanna would know the answer to your question.
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I would suspect that, while you have to double post everything, Bhante @sujato has found a way that everything he posts once (on BS) shows up on Mastodon automatically.
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That could be. Technically I’m not doing any posting… I have two Wordpress plugins that automatically create real posts on each platform. And I use a different service to post to Tumblr and Facebook.
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The person who is posting has to set up the bridge.
So people who wish to follow me on Bluesky can do so as I have enabled bridgy on mastodon. Bhante Sujato has enable bridgy on bluesky and I can follow him on mastodon.
It seems like there is way to follow both bluesky and feediverse accounts using some sort of shared protocol. However mastodon doesn’t use that same protocol. It’s really confusing still!
I may end up moving over to bluesky because that seems to be where people I want to follow are. However, even though I was an early twitter adopter, I gave it up after a few years because screaming in the town square was never really my thing. I’m still not really that motivated to participate in this kind of media.
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Now I’m seeing the same posts on both platforms, but not the associated replies; these seem to be stuck in their place of origin.
I am off Twitter, and doubt that I’ll want to stay in these 2 new places long (tho I have found a link to your Wordpress, which I didn’t know existed 
). I regret that it is Meta who links me to the people I want to talk with.
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You will see me and Bhante Sujato on both because we were both using bridgy. I am ‘native’ on the elephant. Bhante S’s old mastodon account has a picture from lokanta as the profile. His bridged account has a kid photo
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Remember when there were two competing apps and not just FB? I can’t recall the name of the other one but it just never got the same following.
My observation is that, by their very nature, most any new social media platform is priming itself to be purchased later by one of the monster companies. While they are still independent, I feel that’s the time to use them for their bull horn effect.
Mastadon is appealing because they try to use a decentralized model, in terms of technology, to protect themselves from any one technocrat taking over. Alas, even they have to cave in now to compete with, e.g., Bluesky. A decentralized technology model is very hard to sustain if you’re trying to make it easily consumable (and free $$)…civilian volunteers burn out.
Anyway… sigh…
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How exactly are they caving?
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Thanks for explanation. 
I observed that.
I was trying to conceptualise how interactions play out. EG: I made a reply to you on Bluesky and find that it doesn’t show on M, so I’m wondering whether a possible answer from you will show on both.
I’m realising how out of synch I’ve become. I valued social media when it brought loose groups of people and allowed them to stay together developing conversations and relationships. Now it is forums like Discourse that fill that function, and social media is something else altogether.
So true. 
They went to a centralized server model, away from the citizen-hosted model.
Um, respectfully, I don’t think so?
There are a lot of other servers on the fediverse (some video servers, some instant-message-type chat servers, they don’t all follow the mastodon model), and even just of the many different mastodon servers alone, what mastodon.social does doesn’t dictate what the rest of the fediverse does. It just happens to be run by the guy who releases the mastodon server software, but the “mastodon” server that I use runs on a compatible but different server, a fork of mastodon, basically.
I mean, I think you’re referring to mastodon.social here, because otherwise I have no idea what you could be referring to. And I would really like to know what, if this is true.
No, that’s not true.
There is a server managed by the founder, but it is only one of many.
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Yes, that’s what I meant. I don’t know whether it’s true that this is how mastadon.social started. It’s my conjecture that they had to “cave in” to the centralized model to increase user adoption and manage the expected scale.
Maybe that’s the new mastodon.social?
I know we briefly discussed a few months ago whether the distributed citizen server model (my terminology) is easy enough for the average social media user to start using regularly.
Average = they would never claim to be anything close to a “power user” and wouldn’t take the time to remember which server community they were using with the saved credentials in order to follow their preferred mastodon channel.
EDIT:
This is where you see how many users are accessing various mastodon servers. At the top, you see 121M for mastodon.social
All I’m saying is that, for this scale, I can’t imagine mastodon – still a non-profit, to its credit – hasn’t been building in redundancy that necessarily requires a centralized model. And that costs more and more money to support. It’s not that I don’t feel the federated model is preferable as an ideal. But clearly there’s been an exodus from elsewhere by people who are simply looking for a single point of reference for an alternative platform. Hence Bluesky as well.
This simply isn’t true at all. It’s just a popular server. There has been no caving.
If anything the Mastodon org has been working hard to support other servers being created.
And again, using Mastodon is not any more complicated than a centralized platform. You just aren’t going to get content blasted at you like you would on a centralized, commercial platform. We have gotten so used to that it seems like when a platform comes along that doesn’t treat you like a product it seems broken or complicated.
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To be fair, there is a lot of room for improvement as well! They’re a small team of just a few volunteers going head-to-head against large, professional companies with dozens or hundreds or thousands of employees.
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I decided to make a Mastodon Account:
Ivan (@NamMyohoRengeKyo@mastodon.social) - Mastodon
It seems like a good platform.
Please be my Friend 
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