Thank you Venerable. Above I used the words “most often” rather than “always”.
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Just a possibility that you might feel that in AN4.123 it seems odd to fall from so high Brahma realm directly to hell if one doesn’t attain to enlightenment there. In traditional Theravada teaching, they do try to say that will land in human realms at the lowest first, so that got chance to avoid hell.
Yes, the above is Theravada but not EBT. What you posted above seems to exactly support my original point that Theravada became so focused on reincarnation that Theravada manufactures its own doctrine. Theravada invents ideas contrary to AN 4.123.
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There’s nothing unusual about having thoughts which are painful. That’s basically depression, anxiety, all sorts of mental illness. Human beings are in sensual realm and we have mind base. So the beings in sensual realm has mind. Saying that hell is experienced by the mind doesn’t support that therefore hell is beyond sensual realm.
While certainly most thoughts related to depression will have a sensual basis (such as broken relationship, etc); it does not mean all thoughts related to depression do.
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Given that non-returners cannot fall into hell and still got attachments to form and formless realm, it really doesn’t make sense to posit a form or formless hell.
For me, the above view of a non-returner is superficial. It is similar to the common superficial Theravada view that because a once-returner still has sensual desire that a one-returner must engage in sexual activity. The last five fetters I imagine are extremely subtle and do not involve the degree of delight for jhana described in AN 4.123. That is why they do not lead to hell.