[Jhânas of Pa Auk] conceptual breathing comes naturally?

Hi,

For Pa Auk, does the conceptual breath appear naturally after focusing on the non-conceptual (physical) breath? Or do we have to force the appearance of the conceptual breath? According to the monk Pannananda, it seems that it is necessary to force its appearance (see “A Companion Volume To Brief Discussion On Ānāpānasati”).

Thanks in advance.

For the sake of all beings.

As explained previously, the appearance of the learning sign is described in detail in the Vism.

Thank you. Can you remind me if he says that conceptual breathing comes naturally or if it has to be forced?

276. You yourselves must strive; the Buddhas only point the way."—Dhammapada XX