John Kelly’s Pāli 2024 (G&K) Class 23

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Thread for discussing John Kelly’s Pāli 2024 (G&K) Class 23 for the class on September 8th / 9th 2024.

Meeting ID: 829 5896 1475

Passcode: anicca

You will need to remain in the “waiting room” until host lets you in.

Homework preparation for this class:

  1. Review G&K Lesson VIII: Grammar, pp. 113-116

  2. Review G&K Glossary VIII-2, pp. 119-120

  3. Complete G&K Lesson VIII: Further Readings 1-4, pp. 116-118

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Hi John, I have effectively dropped out of the class, sorry about that. I hope I have a stable enough schedule at some point to join the next one. I will be taking what I have learned from the first months with me though, thank you for your generosity in teaching!

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Thanks for letting me know. I thought you might have, since we haven’t seen you for a while.
I strongly urge you to keep up your Pāli studies on your own, so you don’t waste all the good work you’ve put in so far.
Be well.
With mettā, John

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In the DPD, -tva endings (like abhivādetvā and upasaṅkamitvā) are classified absolute accusative. In G&K they are Gerunds. since this class (in a poor order of events) is my first using grammatical terminology, are these the same or am I missing something?

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I’m not familiar with the term ‘absolute accusative’, but in Pali gerunds and absolutives are the same thing. (-tva ending)
It’s indeclinable.

(Which is very different from an English ‘gerund’).

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Thank you, for helping dispel ignorance on this account.

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Dear John, with apologies, I once again have a an unavoidable Dhamma event coinciding with this Class 23. Still hoping to catch up and join next time!

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Thanks for letting me know, Ayya.
Hope to see you with us again soon.

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Now we have completed all the exercises in G&K Lesson 8, here is a copy of the answers in trilinear form:
G&K Readings 8 trilinear.pdf (187.2 KB)

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Thanks, John. These are priceless (even though I’m not formally joining in anymore ).

:pray:t2: :elephant:

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These notes are so helpful for me. Thank you so much John. With Metta

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I will be staying tuned through recordings and this forum for next few weeks, hope to rejoin on zoom before the conclusion. Either way will hope to study along whenever the next iteration begins. Gratitude to John, Stephen, and fellow students for this introduction to a deeper understanding of the Pali Canon.

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