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Thread for discussing John Kelly’s Pāli 2024 (G&K) Class 19 for the class on August 11th / 12th 2024.
Meeting ID: 829 5896 1475
Passcode: anicca
You will need to remain in the “waiting room” until host lets you in.
Homework preparation for this class:
*PLEASE NOTE * The Pāli class scheduled for tonight / tomorrow morning has been cancelled, due to unexpected circumstances.
There will not be another class until 11th / 12th August, on account of my travel schedule next week.
I hope all is well–I will be sending metta. Thank you, as always, for leading the class. It is a much appreciated gift.
Hello everyone, and my sincere apologies for the late cancellation of class yesterday.
I’m doing okay, but still not very strong, and our time traveling and visiting lots of people has been rich, but extremely wearying. After a full day out yesterday, I just had nothing left to give for a class in the evening.
This coming Sunday we fly back to Australia (and in fact, during our normal class time, we should be somewhere over the middle Pacific - hence no class). It will be good to be home in Brisbane again and back to some normal routine.
Please use the next two weeks well and keep momentum going in your Pāli study. Thoroughly learn all the grammatical material in G&K Lesson VII, and we will then go through the exercises together during our next class.
Also, I had challenged you all to learn the Maṅgala Sutta by heart. How’s that going? If you already know it, then choose some favourite Dhp verses and memorize them.
Hi, has the Pali class scheduled to occur in a few hours been confirmed?
Yes, Pāli class is on!
Hope to see everyone there.
Hi John, I’m encountering train mishaps, and will be running late. I’ll join as soon as I can. Apologies, and look forward to seeing everyone soon.
Sorrry to have missed resumption of class after the hiatus. I can’t seem to find my link to the class recordings or the name of the student who was managing that, if someonle could please direct me? Many thanks, much Metta, Rachel
In months past, @Sumana has generously recorded the sessions (and I think she shares her Google drive location with those who email her). If she doesn’t attend class, unless someone volunteers something similar, there aren’t recordings.
hank you for your reply, happily there is a recording.
Yes, Rachel, the recordings of the recent classes are on the same drive as all the others. Sumana has not been able to record due to travel, so I have done the recordings and loaded to the same drive.
BTW, I hope you will be joining us back in class sometime soon, too.
Thank you, I most certainly will be back, next class.
It’s going but rather slowly 
I’ve been working on the first 12 lines. I’m using a recording by anonymous Frank. I created a loop just of those 12 lines – one is a loop at normal pace; the second is a loop at rapid pace. (There’s also a non-looped version.)
Once I’ve taken the exam, I’ll work on the next 12.
Ha ha I need to establish accountability here so that I don’t skip the exam. I’ll take it by this time next week 
It’s been an excellent way to learn pāli on several fronts. Different from the text book style although I’m keeping sight of the declensions and tenses … maybe that should be on the exam as well.
“Bahū devā manussā ca,
maṅgalāni acintayuṁ;
Ākaṅkhamānā sotthānaṁ,
brūhi maṅgalamuttamaṁ”.“Asevanā ca bālānaṁ,
paṇḍitānañca sevanā;
Pūjā ca pūjaneyyānaṁ,
etaṁ maṅgalamuttamaṁ.Patirūpadesavāso ca,
pubbe ca katapuññatā;
Attasammāpaṇidhi ca,
etaṁ maṅgalamuttamaṁ.
The Mangalasutta is on a large whiteboard in the kitchen where I can read it many times a day. I do know the first two quatrains now and very close on the third. While memorizing has never been a brain thing I’ve been able to figure out, and I’m now at the age where mere remembering is iffy, it is a delight to have some word pairings and short oft- repeated Pali phrases “in residence”. Not ready to take any exams, though 
OK then, I’m standing down from any exam-taking as well!
I thought everyone in the class would have the whole sutta memorized by now! You’ve had plenty of time since I first suggested everyone learn it.