Navigating the Vinaya

Hello, I am interested in checking sources that are presented on some wikipedia articles.
The sources are from Vinaya, but I am very unable to find the right passage in the Vinaya because I cannot wrap my head around how to navigate it. Could maybe someone help me please?

All the best to you.

For example: Vin 1:61

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This is a Pali Text Society (PTS) reference.

There is this converter which handles PTS refs very well: http://pts.ticao.de/. Only trouble is, it seems to just cover the Sutta Pitaka and not the Vinaya.

I personally just use a very simple txt file with conversions for finding PTS refs, and from that can see the example ref can be found in pi-tv-kd1 (this can also be seen via the PTS ref numbers on the ā€œsuttaplexā€ cards for the kd: https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-kd)

Thereafter, in the first instance, it was only through dark arts that I could make the tentative suggestion that more precisely the ref corresponds with this passage: https://suttacentral.net/pli-tv-kd1/pli/ms#319. But then thereā€™s a possibility that you might want an English translation rather than the Paliā€¦ the lookup tool could perhaps guide to the right paragraph.

Alternatively, you could use the text info given on the legacy site: https://legacy.suttacentral.net/en/pi-tv-kd1#Vin.1.61 (alas the anchor doesnā€™t seem to work for me when loading the page, but if you have the text info setting on you can use a page search to get to it).

Simple, right? :grin:

Would be curious to know how @sujato would guide users on this one.

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I donā€™t know if this is the best way, but what I normally do when I need to check multiple Vinaya references that are given by PTS volume and page number is to go to Sutta Central legacy and open four tabs with the following pages:

Bhikkhuvibhaį¹…ga
https://legacy.suttacentral.net/pi-tv-bu-vb

Bhikkhuį¹‡Ä«vibhaį¹…ga
https://legacy.suttacentral.net/pi-tv-bi-vb

Khandhaka
https://legacy.suttacentral.net/pi-tv-kd

Parivāra
https://legacy.suttacentral.net/pi-tv-pvr

On each of these pages the references to the PTS romanised edition are supplied in the third column.

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Thanks both of you.

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