nice, I like “cat’s meow” vs “Lion’s roar” even more than the delightful cat lion shadow image. Cuz there’s no cat, there’s composite image making, shadow casting, meowing, roaring - and all this is occurs in the mind.
Thank you Ayya @Charlotteannun and Karl @karl_lew . Khandhas are on my mind lately.
A few days later @SeriousFun136 wanted to question the concept further, and the discussion veered right away from anything to do with the specific haiku or haiku in general. . So I split it off into a new topic, just in case it had theoretical value.
(PS Your comment reinforces my feeling that sometimes a haiku gets done to death.)
(PPS I wouldn’t have spent so long explaining all this for anyone other than the site owner, and I feel it would be rather cool if, by way of thanks, you would find a moment to contribute a haiku of your own. Not here. Over there. )
(PPPS At this point I realise the current thread doesn’t have theoretical legs and I’m moving it to the watercooler. … maybe the whole thread is a prelest.)
It’s just my term for a ragtag unaffiliated collection of views I have encountered on web forums, bhante.
The chief rationale for discounting the dīgha I’ve encountered takes out of context some words from Venerable Bodhi that it may have been compiled for the purposes of converting Brahmins, or something like that, I’d have to look up the precise entry. The rationale for throwing out the Khuddaka seems less clear, but reminds me of when Martin Luther created the Protestant “apocrypha” out of previously-accepted texts he thought were questionable because they complicated his novel doctrine of “salvation through faith alone.” To be quite frank, this is only really 3-5 people I’ve met only online that I am describing, and through my eyes only, not theirs (though through three of their eyes, they are stream-entrants or arhants, so take from what what you will, bhante, I’m sure-nigh-positive you’ve encountered similar online characters). Maybe I shouldn’t have wrote the haiku, because it only makes sense to me . I thought it was funny, though, and that was its purpose. Forgive the frivolity.
I think it generated some interesting discussion, so I’m pleased you did.
My observation is that the sort of people you’re talking about over-interpret the text-critical approach, without the balance that the likes of Ven Sujato and Analayo bring to the enterprise (such as Ven Sujato’s interesting talks and essays about the role of mythology, and their care in pointing out that “later” is not the same as “wrong” or “useless”).
The lines of a haiku are supposed to be exactly 5/7/5. (That’s actually the Western take on the original Japanese form which is more nuanced - meaning of course that there’s an inevitable English speaking upper layer of snobbish in-the-know true haiku enthusiasts.)
But your poem has the value of actually triggering out loud laughter.
Having read about the Puritans, as well as having read some of their own writings, I’d strongly second this. They were a complex movement / community. They were not without their problems, but I hate to see them reduced to being an insult term as they often are in contemporary usage.
Only marital–
Tis true–Puritans embraced
joyful love-making
My mistake, since the original thread was haiku, somehow I thought you were trying to write a haiku and didn’t realize that you’d just offered us a perfect clerihew. Well done.