@HongDa - random and not that important. Very hard to reproduce as I don’t know what I can’t see!
In MN44:6.3 the note asterisk isn’t showing up, yet when I hover at the end of the line there is a tooltip with a note.
I checked this same note in Vivaldi (chromium browser) and the asterisk is there. I have screenshot my inspector and the code structure looks the same.
Everything in 6.1 appears the same as 6.3 . The note in 6.1 is working, but not 6.3 .
So I’m guessing it’s some odd Safari bug on certain versions. It seems like my versions are newer than yours, so perhaps see if you can still reproduce after updating?
My versions:
Safari: Version 26.2 (20623.1.14.18.4)
macOS Sequoia: 15.7.3 (24G419)
Since the HTML seems fine (although I wasn’t able to reproduce to look in more depth on my side), I’d suspect this might be some CSS rendering issue. Could try checking if changing to line-by-line or disabling the Pali view makes it show up?
I also checked on Chrome on my Mac, plus Chrome and Firefox for Android on my phone, and could not reproduce on any.
The only thing I noticed is that the spacing between the text and the asterisk is a bit different depending on the view and OS, as can be seen in my screenshots above. Chrome on macOS looks identical to Safari on macOS for me. Chrome and Firefox for Android have the same spacing as the side-by-side screenshot, even when the Pali view is disabled.
That possibly bolsters a CSS rendering issue hypothesis, particularly as the engines are different on macOS (WebKit required - EDIT: or not, apparently WebKit is only required for iOS mobile browsers) vs. Android.
Sorry, I thought I had my mac set to auto update, but apparently not. Plus I was avoiding Tahoe. I will update to the latest version of Sequoia.
Before I do, I thought I would peer inside .comment:before both 6.1 and 6.3 are computing the exact same css. display:inline seems to be the culprit. switching it to display:inline-block seems to bring back the asterisk on 6.3. I have no idea why only this one spot though. I have been in robes too long, and the box model has changed a fair bit in the years. I am probably missing something.
Ah I’m on the one of the last Intel Macbooks, so I can’t update farther than Sequoia. That was a blessing initially as I didn’t have all the compatibility issues of Apple Silicon/ARM/etc, but now the scenario has flipped where there’s software only compatible with Apple Silicon and not Intel Macs
Are you able to update to Safari 26? Or is that not available on your Macbook?
If not, you might be able to get it via the Safari Technology Preview - just to check if it fixes this.
There were some CSS bits in the 26.x release notes (under “CSS” > “Resolved Issues”) that seemed possibly related, although from a quick read of the summary they sounded mostly grid related and so I don’t think apply here.
Huh, interesting. Changing that makes no difference on my end
I had a few hypotheses, but none of them really make sense (and changing on my end still failed to reproduce):
width of the screen (i.e. if the asterisk is close to the edge), but your screen can still fit more in the screenshot clearly
amount of text in the note, but there are other long notes in this same sutta
quotations or other unicode characters, but there’s other similar lines
whether it’s at the end of a paragraph or not, etc
I don’t see anything off the top of my head either, but my CSS mastery probably peaked in ~2015ish and since then I haven’t done too much nuanced CSS (moved onto nuances in many other technologies), so my box model knowledge is rusty too, to say the least
To be honest I don’t really want to update to Tahoe. It’s chock full of AI bloat. Even doing that sequoia update triggered a whole lot of AI stuff to be installed which I had to clean up.
All of this may have finally convinced me to make my MacBook dual boot so that I can mostly work in a Linux environment.
As unsatisfying as it is to not solve this mystery, I think we might have to leave it here unless other users can reproduce this issue.
Oh sorry, to clarify I meant if you could update Safari independently of the OS. Sometimes there’s an option to only update some of the software in the update menu (like I’ve used that to update xcodetools, I otherwise don’t use much of the built-in software).
If you can’t, you can install Safari Technology Preview directly from the official site. I don’t mean for you to use that as a regular browser, just to check and see if the newer version still has this issue on your Mac or not
Ah I guess I wouldn’t know because all the new stuff is Apple Silicon only, for better or for worse
Yea I’ve considered it for native container performance for a while now, but always been a big hassle when otherwise everything else runs pretty well on Mac.
My PCs on the other hand all are multi-boot, and I even got my (not very tech savvy) dad to dual-boot Ubuntu recently because Windows 11 was using up 100% disk on his HDD while idle (while Ubuntu uses 0%… didn’t want to upgrade to an SSD if it were only because of an unoptimized OS that seems to eat more and more resources every update )
Side note… I’m still no closer to publishing the SC extension on Safari. Perhaps switching to FF might be overall less trouble. Or even one of the big C browsers.
I have been in robes too long, and the box model has changed a fair bit in the years. I am probably missing something.
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