Notes on geography for Map of Early Buddhism

Going by wobbly memory alone, in addition to Sankassa and Kannakujja mentioned above, I added the following locations (and copied in descriptions) to the map: Bārānasī, Pātaligāma, Gonaddha, Vedisa, Devadaha and Koliyā. There are likely to be a few more, but unfortunately as I say, it didn’t occur to me to keep track.

Also, when plotting the parinibbana journey I added Nāḷandā which Ven. Sujato has mentioned is the same place as Nāla. The descriptions are fractionally different. :smiley:

I’m not quite sure if/how this is relevant at your end.

Thanks. The new ones I have added and you can see them on SC, but I did not check all the descriptions so if there are any changes made in there, they won’t have been updated on the dppn.

Super. I thought the only descriptions I’d touched were the ones for the locations I’d added, but then I recalled the couple of points handled earlier in this thread as a result of which:

In Jambugāma’s decription the following was removed:

probably a suburb of Campā

In Kāḷasilā’s description,

It was there that Moggallāna was murdered and that Godhika SN.i.120f. and Vakkali SN.iii.124 committed suicide.

was changed to:

It was there that Godhika SN.i.120f. and Vakkali SN.iii.124 committed suicide.

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Thank you for the excellent work!

May I suggest adding some photos to enliven the descriptions, e.g.:

Neranjana river
http://www.travelphoto.net/a-photo-a-day/wordpress/2005/04/07/niranjana-river-bodhgaya/
http://www.buddhisma2z.com/content.php?id=488

Jetavana grove:
Imgur

Uruvela village:
Imgur

Rajagaha:
http://www.buddhisma2z.com/content.php?id=331

Savatthi:
http://www.buddhisma2z.com/content.php?id=363

Sattapanni cave:

Gijjhakuta:

etc.
http://www.photodharma.net/India/Bodhgaya-Around/Bodhgaya-Around.htm
http://www.photodharma.net/India/Rajgir/Rajgir.htm
https://www.google.com/maps/d/embed?mid=zElXxByrE4_c.kjoLF5OSKmT4&msa=0&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=25.033385%2C85.195002&spn=4.950686%2C6.312209&t=m&output=embed
http://www.sleuteltotinzicht.nl/div021.htm#Peligrimstocht%20-%20Algemeen
http://www.buddhaviews.com/buddha_india.htm

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Thanks, these are lovely. Would you like to add these yourself? We can give you editing rights. Or perhaps @Aminah would like to do it.

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I’ve added the photos given for the named places. Perhaps @Nibbanka would care to do the ‘etc.s’.

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Thank you, I would care.
It’s like revisiting a dear place.

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@Nibbanka - I will give you editing rights. Thanks also to @Aminah for adding these photos. They look great!

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@Nibbanka - if you make changes other than pictures, can you please let me know? Thanks!

what do you think of plotting such locations as Bālaklonakāragāma (a village) [doesn’t have its own entry in the DPPN] and Pācīnavaṁsadāya (a park)?

both are mentioned in MN 128 and according to DPPN were situated between Kosambi and Pārileyya

When the Buddha found that he could not persuade the Kosambi monks to refrain from quarrelling, he left Kosambi alone and unattended, and passing through Balaklonakaragama and Pacinavamsadaya, went to Parileyyaka

The park (Pacinavamsadaya) lays between Balakalonakaragama and the Parileyyakavana

at the absence of the information of their exact or likely location, maybe the relative one will suffice

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As long as we have an approximate location to distinguish it, that’s good enough. I mean, it’s not like people are going to get lost following their GPS of early Buddhism!

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Where might Sedaka be located?

I have no idea. It’s only mentioned, apparently, as being in the land of the Sumbha people, about who we know nothing. And its name varies with Desaka; which just means “a place”. The commentary to SN 47.19 helpfully says that “among the Sumbha people” means evaṃnāmake janapade: “That’s the name of the country”.

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That’s maybe based on SN 46.30. Ah, well, it was a long shot.

since i don’t have administrator rights over the map, @Aminah would it be too much to ask that these two locations are added?

Not too much to ask of me at all, but it almost killed my computer (I don’t think my graphics card likes the sweltering UK heat nor the poxy fan I have ;))!

Anyway, I added Pācīnavaṁsadāya. Bālakaloṇakāra / Bākalonakārāgama / Bālakalonakārāma was actually already listed as in the town & village section although was originally located as being just on the other side of the Ganges. I converted it to a question mark location (as Pārileyya too is a question mark) and moved it in-line with your suggestion.

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thank you very much, and i sympathize with your machine, mine can relate to suffering from heat

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I wonder if our new SC computer will like the 115 F here in the Mojave-desert …
Thanks @Aminah: I have added the map references to SC dictionary.

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Holy wow. Now you’ll have some great “when I was a young nun” stories.

O, and PCs really hate heat. It’s the number one factor in failure of SSDs, much more so than number of writes.

Actually, I’m cheating … I have a luxury kuti with airco AND wifi!!!
Don’t worry about the SSD - we have a swamp-cooler in the office too.