Parable story, Rats,Viper,Honey ,is this from Sutta -Nikaya?

Good day all,

I can recall a story which i heard somewhere before ,in which a parable is given:

a man is fallen/inside a pit,/ well, he is hanging by a branch/ root , there were two rats, poisonous viper/snake at the bottom of the well ,
Near him, there is a flower which drips nectar/ beehive with small amount of honey that dripping down, ,and he tasted it,
and this person is so obsessed with the taste of that nectar, that he neglects, ignore the impending, life-threatening dangers all around him.

Could someone tell me if this parable is taken from Sutta , Nikaya ?
please share the reference :pray:

It’s not in the suttas, nor the nikayas, nor in the Samyutta Nikaya, nor the Sutta Nipata. I think it’s a Zen something or other. Not of Pali origin at all.

Do a Google search for https://www.google.com/search?q=strawberry+tiger+cliff and I think you might find the story you are after. I realize you remembered rats, viper, honey, but I think this is the same thing.

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It is in the The Parable Sutra in Chinese , The Parable Sutra (T217.4.801). There are translations of this, one by our own Charles Patton. Google search will give you several translations. Here is C. D. Patton’s:

“Going back many, many ages ago, there was a person who went into the jungle. He was chased by an evil elephant. Full of fear, he ran, but he had nowhere to go for safety.
Then he saw a deep and empty well. Dangling into it was a tree root; so he quickly shinnied down it, and hid inside the well.
There were 2 rats, one dark and one light, that together kept gnawing on the root above the man.
And in the well, one at each of the directions, were 4 vipers trying to bite the man.
And below him, there was a great poisonous serpent.
So the man was terrified and also, worried about the tree root’s breaking.
Now the tree had a beehive in it, and 5 drops of honey fell into his mouth.
But when the tree shook, the bees swarmed down to sting the person.
And [while the man was down there] brush fires came to burn the tree, over and over again.” …
:pray:

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The Buddhist sources did not survive in Indian languages but we have six in Chinese translations

~ The Parable of “The Man in the Well”. Its Travels and its Pictorial Traditions from Amaravati to Today

This paper gives a fairly complete account. Recommended!

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Sir, I never came across these terms, but a similar sutta "Vammikasutta SuttaCentral " talks somthing similar … “Sir, what is the termite mound? What is the fuming by night and flaming by day? Who is the brahmin, and who the clever one? What are the sword, the digging, the sticking point, the bullfrog, the forked path, the filter of ash, the tortoise, the butcher’s knife and chopping board, and the scrap of meat? And what is the cobra?”

“Mendicant, ‘termite mound’ is a term for this body made up of the four principal states, produced by mother and father, built up from rice and porridge, liable to impermanence, to wearing away and erosion, to breaking up and destruction. Just as a termite mound is created by activity driven by eating and excreting, so this body is created from within by food. Also, the body, like a termite mound, is home to countless small creatures.
Thanks regards

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This has been discussed here and in following posts a while ago.

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