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#262

DN 32 King Kuvera mis-spelt in one place
The Great King Kureva, dear sir,
has a capital named Visāṇā,
which is why the great king
is called ‘Vessavaṇa’.

as King Kureva


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#263

And then King Avantiputta said: “Give away all the different foods that have been prepared there.”

Where’d that food come from? Or maybe we should be asking where it went so we can eat it. :slight_smile: Anyway, I think it is a cut and paste error


#264

Indeed, from ja 464-510 were assigned to the incorrect volume, I have fixed this.

fixed

Yes, the translation is elided here due to repetition.

fixed.

I don’t know, this feels like a normal idiom to me.

Fixed.

Lol. fixed.

Fixed.

Fixed

Yikes, fixed.

I’ve fixed this case. There are pluses and minuses, but on the whole I think in a few cases using markup for lists is justified. The basic principle is that the list structure is not in the text, so, like paragraphs, verse markup, and so on, it is in the markup.

fixed.

Agreed, fixed.

Fixed.

It’s a bit odd, but not a mistake. It’s because the paragraph breaks are in different places.

Fixed.

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Ahh, no i think the translation is correct as is.

Fixed

Indeed, fixed.

Actually, just delete “Then they said:” the rest is abbreviated.

amended to “strong, guarded by the teaching” (they’re in the same case so no relation between the terms is implied.)

Fixed.

fixed.

I dunno, “bed and board” is stock English, I think it’s fine.

Yes, I think Mahākoṭṭhita is probably the Sinhalese spelling. These were mostly used by the PTS in their editions, and have become familiar in the English-speaking world.

Fixed.

My dreams, perhaps? Fixed!


Thanks once more to everyone for their corrections!


#265

DN 24 About Patikaputta.
There are 4 paragraphs after
"That is what the Buddha said. Satisfied, the wanderer Bhaggavagotta was happy with what the Buddha said. "

Could you check these last four paragraphs are in the correct place.

Thanks


#266

I checked MN 1-50. My knowledge of English is imperfect, so I apologize in advance for any overcorrections. Just some friendly suggestions :slight_smile:.

Suggestions

MN 25 , SC 5, 7 & 16
then we won’t became negligent

“become”

Minor suggestions

MN 39, SC 8
If the faculty of mind was left unrestrained.

Subjunctive mood, perhaps “were” fits better

MN 36, SC 27
Chick peas

chickpeas

MN 36, SC 27
Eighty year old

eighty-year-old

MN 35, SC 3
Sixty year old

sixty-year-old

MN 26, SC 3
Near by

Nearby

MN 20, SC 3
If the corpse of a snake or a dog or a human was hung around their neck.

Subjunctive mood, perhaps “were” fits better

Non-American English

MN 38, SC 92
Ploughs

Plows

MN 6, SC 14
Fulfil

fulfill

MN 5, SC 11-13
Offence

offense.

I’m not sure about these

MN 7, SC 12

Is the river called Sarassati or Sarasvati?


#267

It appears this sutta has what I am guessing are old span tags: SuttaCentral

in a deep pit close to water <span class="add" title="">thinking</span>:

#268

AN 4.192

#SC 3.4: That’s why I said that you can get know a person’s ethics by living with them.

… get to know

#SC 5.5: That’s why I said that you can get know a person’s purity by dealing with them.

… get to know

#SC 7.5: That’s why I said that you can know a person’s resilience in times of trouble.

get to know


#269

DN 16, the first of the eight abhibhāyatana, the translation on SuttaCentral reads:

Not perceiving form internally, they see visions externally, limited, both pretty and ugly.

Should be:

Perceiving form internally, they see visions externally, limited, both pretty and ugly.


#270

@sujato
Strangely this matter was raised in Dhamma Wheel as well.

I also think Ven Sujato made mistake here:

Ānanda, there are these eight dimensions of mastery. What eight? Not perceiving form internally, they see visions externally, limited, both pretty and ugly. Mastering them, they perceive: ‘I know and see.’ This is the first dimension of mastery.

It should be “perceiving form internally”:

aṭṭha kho imāni, ānanda, abhibhāyatanāni. katamāni aṭṭha ? ajjhattaṃ rūpasaññī eko bahiddhā rūpāni passati parittāni suvaṇṇadubbaṇṇāni. ‘tāni abhibhuyya jānāmi passāmī’ti evaṃsaññī hoti. idaṃ paṭhamaṃ abhibhāyatanaṃ.
In case “not perceiving” it would be “arūpasaññī”.

https://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=33466&sid=8ad606442fbe37e0914571258c4196d2


#271

Is this related to the following in DN33?

Perceiving form internally, someone sees visions externally, limitless, both pretty and ugly. Mastering them, they perceive: ‘I know and see.’
Ajjhattaṃ rūpasaññī eko bahiddhā rūpāni passati appamāṇāni suvaṇṇadubbaṇṇāni, ‘tāni abhibhuyya jānāmi passāmī’ti—


#272

I have seen it DN16. (see my above post in Dhamma Wheel)


#273

Thank you. I was confused.

I didn’t realize the “not” went with rūpasaññī as you mention. In English Bhante Sujato has put the “not” with the “not perceiving”. But in Pali, it is literally “perceiving internally not-form”. :open_mouth:
This is a subtle difference, because “not perceiving” could be unmindful unawareness and “perceiving not-form internally” is awareness that there is no form internally. It took me several weeks to puzzle this out as my mind got stuck on “not perceiving”. Eventually I figured out that the meaning is “internal awareness of not-form”. Bhante’s translation is simpler and clear, it’s just my picky head getting confused.


#274

MN 19 #SC 12.1

Suppose it’s the last month of summer, when all the crops have been gathered into the neighborhood of a village, and a cowherd must take care of the cattle. While at the root of a tree or in the open he need only be mindful that

This is just an example, and similar instances occur in many suttas.

The segment ends with “that”, a conjunction that introduces a sub-clause which is given in the following segment:

the cattle are there.

From the Pali it is understandable to beak the segment at this point, as the sub-clause here takes the form of a direct speech (with Quotation marks). But in the English this isn’t the case.

When reading the text this didn’t appear to me so much as a problem, but now when listening through SC-Voice it feels quite disturbing to have the conjunction in one segment, and then having to wait before hearing where it leads to (especially when listening bilingual Pali—English which is what I mostly do). The flow would be more natural if the “that” would be moved to the following segment.

Another instance being for example in AN 8.53:

You should definitely bear in mind that these things are
ekaṃsena, gotami, dhāreyyāsi:
not the teaching, not the training, and not the Teacher’s instructions.
‘neso dhammo, neso vinayo, netaṃ satthusāsanan’ti.

“are” should be moved to the next segment.

Just something for you to consider…


#275

@sujato
DN21
Is it “Three and Thirty” or “Thirty and three” or “Thirty three”?


#276

For consistency in searching, I would favor just one of those throughout the translations even though they are all valid.


#277


SN 22.90 — Bhikkhu Sujato

insistence, and underlying tendency—you don’t get atracted , grasp, and commit to the notion “my self”, you’ll


#278

@sujato
I just notice the word thought is used to translate Vitakka - Vicara as well as Sankappa.
What are the other pali words you used as thought?
Is it possible to have an alternate word for them?
Just thinking aloud.
:smile:


#279

@sujato
DN24

The end continues after the end of.

satisfied, the wanderer Bhaggavagotta was happy with what the Buddha said.


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#280

In MN 21 the name of the mendicant moḷiyaphagguno is translated as Venerable Phagguna of the Top-Knot. However, in SN 12.32 his name is translated as Moḷiyaphagguna.


#281

<ol><li>Painful practice with slow insight, </li><li>painful practice with swift insight, </li><li>pleasant practice with slow insight, and </li><li>pleasant practice with swift insight.</li></ol>

DN28