Weāve already had a lot of useful bug reports for the new site, and our devas are scurrying around fixing stuff. Iāll make a dedicated thread here for bugs, and will start off by mentioning a few known issues so you donāt have to worry about posting them again.
The new site is built using an emerging standard called āweb componentsā. These were proposed in 2011, but only late last year was the spec fully agreed on by all parties. The standard is still being implemented, so while this happens some rough edges are expected. Currently Blink-based browsers (Chrome, Opera, Vivaldi ā¦) have the best support for web components.
We implement web components using Googleās Polymer 2 library. They are promising Polymer 3 āvery soonā, and this should bring with it a range of improvements.
Meanwhile, here are some outstanding issues:
Microsoft Edge doesnāt work. This is a limitation in Edge implementation of web components. Use another browser.
Firefox can be slow. Keep your FF updated and it should be okay, but it wonāt be fully speedy until they roll out web component support over the next couple of months.
A small percentage of Firefox users will also encounter the dreaded āLastPassā bug, which causes the site to fail. This is a bug in the LastPass plugin for Firefox. They are aware of it and are making a fix. Keep your browser and plugin up to date, and it should be fixed soon. Meanwhile, either use another browser or disable the plugin.
Weāve also had bug reports for Grammarly and Smooth Scrolling plugins as well as UBlock Origin and AdBlock Origin.
Safari should work, but we have received some bug reports, which we are looking into. Check back in a few days, and if itās still not resolved, let us know.
Downloading texts for offline use is slow, and we are working on that. I would recommend waiting until next week before trying this out.
Some of the more obscure texts are still not available, we are working on it.
Not all of my new translations are ready. We should have the draft version of the full four nikayas in a week or two, and the fully proofed version in a couple of months. If you want to use these texts for some purpose I would recommend waiting until then.
For the four nikayas, the Pali texts are linked to my new translations, so where the translations are absent the Pali texts are too. As above, theyāll be there in a week or two.
Incoming bookmarked URLs are broken. This is because we added support for multiple authors, which requires a different approach to URLs. We will try to fix this problem as best we can, so your patience is appreciated.
Please note that the main site (suttacentral.net) and this forum are completely different platforms. For now we are mainly focussed on the main site, so donāt worry too much about problems with the new theme on the forum just yet.
When reporting bugs, please mention your operating system/version and your browser/version.
I just looked up the SarakÄni Sutta on google and it gave me this link, with the title āSN 55.24: SarakÄni 1 - SuttaCentralā: https://suttacentral.net/sn55.24
But the sutta does not seem to be there. Just the text:
Paį¹hamasaraį¹Änisakka Sutta
SN 55.24
SN v 375
When SarakÄni the Sakyan died the Buddha declared him a stream-enterer. But others complained, since he was known as a drinker. However, the Buddha confirmed to MahÄnÄma that SarakÄni had undertaken the precepts on his deathbed.
I tried clicking on āSN 55.24ā but it is not clickable.
The 3 horizontal lines on the left just bring up the menu āsutta; vinaya; abhidhammaā. There is no panel like there used to be to see the sutta in different languages or go to any links related to the sutta. I tried pressing everything else I could find on the page but no luck.
Also using the search function and entering āSN 55.24ā gives only 4 results, none of which seem relevant - it seems. For example the first link (it only gives 4 hits) is: https://suttacentral.net/sn35.131/en/sujato
It seems that the search was just picking up the āSNā.
If I type āSN 55.24ā into the search function, expecting that to give only exact phrase matches due to the quotation marks, it just gives what seems to be the identical result of 4 matches. So this functionality is missing apparently.
Even if I try to search for MN 2, I cannot see MN 2 in the whole first page of results. So itās really hard to find any sutta. I donāt remember it being that hard on the old site. Seems you have to actually navigate through the heirarchy with these steps:
3 parallel lines
sutta
middle
MN
MÅ«lapannÄsa
1-10
Then close off the side panel so you can see the resultant page
Find the sutta and click
8 steps to find a sutta seems a little much, so I am guessing this is a bug.
I just got a new badge today, but the description of the badge is cut off.
Also, although I have earned many badges, I have yet to receive any of them in the mail. I have a special sash to which I will sew them when I receive them, but, sadly, my special sash is currently empty. Iām going on a retreat next week and would really like to wear my sash with all of its badges during the retreat. Iām willing to pay for overnight delivery if necessary.
This is a sutta card. It gives you all the information that SC has for this sutta.
There is no English translation for this suttaāsee the original post. Translations in other languages are available from the dropdown at the bottom of the card.
The down-pointing arrow expands to show the other menu items.
Not sure what you are referring to here. On the old site, the menu indicated the text ādivisionsā by nikaya etc. On the current site it is exactly the same, except:
The menu is in the sidebar
The items are reordered a little.
You can navigate to any level of the hierarchy.
There has never been direct access to suttas from the menu.
Yes, we are working to improve this.
Just do mn2 without a space, it will give better results for now, but we will also fix this.
Also, if you know the ID of the sutta you want, just write it in the URL. That is by far the fastest and most effective way!
Any of the green links in the hierarchy are clickable. So if you want to open the whole of the Majjhima Nikaya, just like in the old site, you can. (Itās not a good idea for SN and AN, though!) But, unlike the old site, we also offer the ability to navigate through the hierarchy.
Hmm, we need to implement javascript to cotton conversion. That should be feasible, so long as we have a direct energy-to-matter creator powered by nuclear fusion. Then we can simply extract infinite energy from the quantum vacuum, manipulate it at a quark level into the desired weave, and spontaneously manifest matter in any form we wish, including your nice badges.
The first sentence on my post was an actual bug. The description of the Aficionado badge was cut off after a few words (in fact, in the middle of a word).
The last part of my post was obviously a joke. Of course Iām not going to wear a sash full of badges on retreat!
@sujato I imagine you know this, but if the new site doesnāt work for us (for me, Safari, as reported) then it means all the links in both old and new posts on Discourse donāt open either as they dontā automatically go back to the old site
Ah, thanks - I must have overlooked that oneā¦ now that page just says
āError 404
Page not foundā
ā¦ so I am not sure what the original page had on clicking that āvā - maybe nothing, or maybe I just overlooked it. But I tried on another page, and clicking that, and then one more, allowed me to see the link to the PÄli. It might just be a case of getting used to this new system as I was used to clicking the three parallel lines, but it might be that it is just a bit counter-intuitiveā¦? I wonder if there is any icon other than a little āvā that might help people more easily recognise that there is a lot of important stuff there? Maybe a nice little image, or something like the letters ārefā? But maybe it is perfect as it isā¦?
Also old links, such as SuttaCentral are not working.
Sorry, found that now since you pointed it out - itās the stuff that comes from that āvā now. I think that used to be in the 3 parallel lines link didnāt it? Which made the side bar come out. Anyway, found it now.
Iām laughing imagining you showing up to the retreat with a vest full of badges. Ohhh, memoriesā¦ I remember well my girl scout uniform with the sash full of badgesāthose fun little artistic embroidered circlesā and how exciting it was to receive and carefully sew on a new one.
I have now found what maybe (?) happened for me on the sutta page I was originally talking about. No little āvā to access PÄli etc. that I can see.
Oh, I just discovered that the column entitled āmoreā has the PÄli in it, if you click the item underneath, and then click the same item once more. Could it perhaps be more helpful to bring that in line with the theme of the left hand column (ātranslationsā) and have this one called āPÄliā, as it is on the pages that have the āvā dropdown menu, as the lefthand column there; or, āoriginal textā or something, if it is meant to be used for not only PÄli? āMoreā seems a bit obscure and not immediately obvious what it is about.
Yes, we are aware of this bug. We are working on it to fix it asap.
Iāve seen this bug before, on Firefox, but it seems to have been solved there. Will report it back to the developers. Thanks for letting us know. It might be better if you move slowly over the text but of course, this has to be fixed.
That is a really bizarre bug. I can see the diacriticals well on Chrome on Ubuntu. I will refer to the developers but not sure what can be done about that.
Yes, we noticed and have it on the to-do list. You can still read all the posts but itās annoying.
One of our monks has tried to download the off-line version of SuttaCentral. On the download page it says the download is 28.28 MB, yet after using up over 2 GB the download was still only 50% complete. He had to abort. Do we know whatās going on?
The first will be easier to fix than the second; the second will require automation on the data or a patient individual with a lot of time to try to identify and mark these issues.
Bhante, I am happy to volunteer to write code to help alleviate this problem in Chinese sutras, as my expertise is in data cleansing of this nature.
The solution I propose is to find all of these kinds of breaks, and take a best guess at moving them.
This will keep whole words together, and allow the dictionary to pick them up. I can simply make a Pull Request to the sc-data repository, with whatever changes I make.
Please let me know if this is something I can help with.
