Report bugs for the new site here! 🐛

The old site is still available on legacy.suttacentral.net. Can you point me to the right page exactly? I think I know what you mean but just want to be sure.
Note that the search capabilities are not optimal yet and we are still working on it.

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Yes, sure, the old site is still there of course!

it’s in the “Help” section, The “Search” Function: https://legacy.suttacentral.net/help#ms6

Waiting patiently until the search functions will be optimised on the new site too! :grin:

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Thanks. I think we have a ticket for this already somewhere so will add this to it.

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Most of that help page is, unfortunately, out of date, even for the old site. But it would be nice to improve the search functions, and the discoverability of how to use them.

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For some reason when I try to access the Samyutta Nikaya on my iPhone or on Safari, it crashes the browser–as if there are just too many entries. It works fine on Chrome.

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Hello! While using the app on my tablet is fine, so far, using the browser on my phone creates this:

There seems to be no ability to scroll the screen to get access to the controls above the area in which one is typing.

At the end of a thread, at the last post, the gear icon and post number obscure the buttons for editing, etc, unless you use panorama screen view.

I’m using the latest Chrome and Android 6.0. Hope this helps.

Oh, and the little hamburger-thingys are all mashed together and hard to figure out.

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Copy-and-paste related strangenesses:

I wanted to cut and paste the English text you see highlighted here (and not the Pali):

…and the Pali got highlighted also. Fair enough. Then I copy and pasted it into LibreOffice 6. Only the Pali pastes for some reason:

…then I paste it a second time, into a plain text editor:

The Pali and Engligh both got pasted. Strange!

I was grateful that the Pali diacritics came across flawlessly.

When I turned off side-by-side English and Pali, and highlighted just the English, then when I tried to copy and paste into LibreOffice, nothing would paste!

I was able to get it to paste only by right-clicking the LibreOffice document (where I wanted to paste) to open a “Context Menu”, then I selected “Paste Special -> Unformatted Text”. Then and only then the English text would paste (as seen in the 2nd paragraph below)!

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The problem is probably that you try to load the entire SN, which is gigantic. Click on the little right-arrow next to where it says Samyutta Nikaya and you get a submenu, also with submenus in there.

I have disabled the possibility to actually click on those links that load an entire huge collection but it is not yet passed to the main site. Hopefully in the next few days.

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For using the forum on a phone, I would first of all recommend using the Android or iOS app, downloadable from the appstore. Also, if you find this theme does not work very well on your phone, simply switch back to the old theme in your preferences.

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This should not happen if you disable side-by-side view and just use the normal view to copy the English. But reading your post a bit further … I had to try it out and indeed in LibreOffice it does not copy. It works to copy it in a plain text editor and indeed copy the unformatted text.
Note that the same thing does NOT happen for Bhikkhu Bodhi’s translations (or any other translations).

This is probably because the segmented texts from Bhante Sujato’s translations and the Pali texts are marked up very differently from all other translations to facilitate all the special functions (pootle files). Each segment is in it’s own separate Shadow Dom.
In this it is very different from the other translations, which are marked up in plain HTML.

My guess is that sophisticated text editors like LibreOffice are not able to understand this type of markup. Plain text editors just use the innerText property.

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Interesting. Thank you!

My fiddling around did end up with the useful result of the Pali and English being nicely separated into paragraphs. Note how in the text editor screenshot above, the English and Pali get interwoven in a way that’s hard to read, and hard to work with.

The paragraphs being separated in LibreOffice makes it easy to make a simple table, then put the paragraphs side by side again:

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That’s great. How did you do that?
Maybe we should get a “copy sutta” thing similar to the “copy parallels table” that results in copying the sutta text in a plain html-table. LibreOffice is able to read that (when you tell it to import from html).
And maybe a page with instructions for all this :smile:

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With the “Insert Table” button:

When you click that button, a sort of grid pops out. Then you drag across the number of rows and columns you’d like in your table (in my case, 2 x 1, which highlight as you drag):

…then when you left click (having highlighted the rows and columns you want), it places an empty table wherever the cursor in the document is.

Then you cut and paste your paragraphs into the empty cells of the new table.

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The problem is the theme. I switched back. Thank you!

:smiley:

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Here is an example of what I described in previous comments:

SN 36.21 has the ‘v’ button that when clicked, gives a dropdown menu from which you can get to the Pāli. You can see the ‘v’ button on the far right, now inverted since I clicked on it.

Below it, SN 36.22 does not have that ‘v’ button, so far as I can see. I cannot find a way to get to the Pāli. And actually, even on the dropdown menu for 21, the items such as ‘SN 36.21’ are not clickable.

Am I looking in the wrong place? And if the ‘v’ button really is the place to go to find the Pāli, why have it only on some suttas, not others?

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(this is not a bug, but I didn’t see a thread for minor problems, and I didn’t want to contribute to proliferation of single threads for each minor problem. Please feel free to relocate this message)

First of all, congratulations to the Sutta Central Team, Bhante Sujato for the free english translations of four nikayas, this is a monumental achievement and a great moment in history!

So here’s my complaint, about sutta numbering:
The old suttacentral had a clear, simple numbering system of the nikaya hierarchy making it easy to find suttas by the modern numbering method.

In the new way, the modern sutta ref. numbers are buried down in the hierarchy, so even someone like me, who is pretty familiar with much of the nikaya, I have to go treasure hunting opening and closing different pali hierarchies guessing at where the final sutta I’m looking for resides in. SN in particular is difficult.

It would be great if the modern sutta ref. numbers were directly embedded throughout the entire nikaya hierarchy so there’s no guesswork. It would only add a few more alphanumeric characters for the hierarchy labels, and is well worth the real estate cost, IMO. I assume the numbers were left out for aesthetics and real estate reasons.

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No, the ‘V’ button gets you to the parallels-table. Not to the pali. SN36.22 does not have any parallels associated with it so there is no button.
The pali text for SN36.21, etc. as well as Bhante Sujato’s translations are not yet uploaded so you cannot see the pali for these texts yet. We hope to get to that soon.

Normally, the pali text, when it’s there, appears in the Translations part of the suttaplex under “More”, where it now says “Hecker” because the german translation is on top of the list. Normally the Pali would be on top of the list and it will be once we have uploaded it.

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Thank you for your feedback.

On the old site, the SN was divided into 56 Samyuttas. Now these 56 are (numbered) inside the respective vaggas where they belong. So yes, this is one extra step there. But you can then click on that same Samyutta as you were used to and get the list for all the suttas within that Samyutta just the same as the old site. If you don’t want to, you don’t have to open all the sub-menu-items. You can simply open the whole Samyutta like for instance https://suttacentral.net/sn47 opens the whole list for SN47 just like the old site did here: https://legacy.suttacentral.net/sn47.

(alternatively you can also open the whole vagga above that and open a whole set of samyuttas)

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The issue I mentioned in the “We’re live!” thread and that was fixed for the desktop site appears to persist on my mobile device. Here’s my post from that thread:

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but in the top left corner of the forums there is this (look at the top left above “Discuss & Discover”):

Looks like the picture/logo is missing for the Sutta Central main site up there?

Using:
Legacy theme
Chrome
Windows 10 desktop

Here is a screenshot from my phone:

I’m using the legacy theme on Chrome Beta on Android 8.1 on Nexus 6P. Tried clearing cache, site data, etc.

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Ah. Well Bhikkhu Sujato did say to go there when I was asking about getting it in Pāli and other languages - he said that in response to my question:

Ah, I see.

Ah. So then are you saying that that ‘v’ button in fact is the way to the Pāli text? I am confused because you wrote:

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