Bhante, here’s a package called luatexja ( GitHub - luatexja/luatexja: The LuaTeX-ja package · GitHub ) that solved this problem without updating Polyglossia.
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Okay. that’s great.
I’ll leave the question of updating to you. If you want to go ahead, great. If you’d rather leave it, we can do it at a later time.
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ok so Ven @Brahmali how we doing? Ready to go ahead with printing, or are we still waiting on changes?
I think we are getting very close. A couple of points:
Does this mean the Chinese character problem has been fixed? If not, Ven. Nadi has a fix ready that at least will make the Chinese sentences fit on the page. As they are, they overrun the right-hand side of the page, and are therefore unreadable.
There is one more long-outstanding PR to be sorted. This concerns a number of changes to the htlm segmentation. Would it be advisable to do this now? I can give you the PR link as soon as I hear back from Ven. Nadi.
Got it.
This morning, I will address another issue regarding the automatic deletion of old release files on GitHub. and then, the publication will be regenerated.
Yes, Hongda has sorted it out. No need for any action on your part.
Best to leave this one. It won’t affect the publication. However, it will effect the change to the new bilara. So let’s:
- publish
- fix that pull request
- then change to new bilara
So that’s awesome, looks like we’re ready to go.
@HongDa I just published some more changes this morning, so make sure you pull the latest data before running the publishing again. If everything looks good, we can send the files to the printer!
Good, thanks.
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Sorry, I forgot there is one more fix required. Here is the PR. If it id too late, never mind.
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Ven. @Brahmali I have merged this PR and pushed to server,
and I have regenerated the publication for Vinaya:
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A minor punctuation issue (non-blocking). In the lists in the Parivara (maybe elsewhere), the list items are not punctuated consistently. Or perhaps there is a pattern I’m not discerning.
(Also this one says “first five volume of” …)
Here you’ve omitted punctuation in the first items and added a period only at the end. The convention is that lists are punctuated exactly like normal text. If a list item is a sentence, use a period. If not, use a comma, semicolon, or nothing at all. Here each list item is a sentence, so should end with a period. You could use semicolons, but then the following capitals should be lowercase. However, I’d recommend only using semicolons where the items are clearly not sentences.
Further down, you’ve formatted correctly as sentences:
Elsewhere you’ve ended items with a comma, somewhat confused by the addition of a trailing reference.
All these items should end with a period. Normally, also, a reference should be included within the sentence. i.e. the period goes after the reference.
Hang on, I feel like we must have discussed this before. But in the Vibhangas (not Khandhakas or Parivara), you have the numbers in the heading. This isn’t the SC convention: the headings are for the headings, the numbers are part of the metadata. It creates things like this:
And this:
And this:
In the last case, the problem is that the number “2” by itself could mean anything—vagga? sutta within vagga? section?
The actual ID is on the footer of the same page, “Bu Pc 2”. The whole design is intended to make sure IDs are handled explicitly and consistently.
I’m going to do a double check to make sure I haven’t made the same mistake. If you’re okay with it, I’ll use a regex to remove all these numbers.
Just following up, I find that in my texts, there’s no numbers in the sutta headings, only in the vaggas.
A couple of exceptions: in the Dhammapada, the “vagga” is more like a sutta.
And in the AN 1s and 2s, there are no proper sutta titles, so I use numbers instead.
The pattern is that only the list item has a full stop. This is apparently an accepted standard.
This seems correct to me. There are six volumes in the edition we are using.
Sure, I am happy with this. If it is not a full sentence, I prefer to use nothing at all, except for a full stop at the end of the last item.
Here we need full stops throughout.
Yes, I think we have, hence no numbers in the Khandhakas. The reason I have left the numbers for the Pātimokkha rules is that otherwise there is no numbering on SC. The rule name appears, but is not obvious which number it is. However, I can see that it creates problems for the printed edition and the pdf. I am happy for you to do whatever is required.
Are you just informing me of all this, or is there something you would like me to do?
Did you mean, “only the final list item”? You might find some support for that—no style rule is ever 100%—but every guide I can find says the opposite.
https://apastyle.apa.org/style-grammar-guidelines/lists/bulleted
https://www.stylemanual.gov.au/style-manual-resources/quick-guides/quick-guide-lists
It should be, “first five volumes of”
Never mind, I’ll fix the typo.
Again, the basic idea is that it’s punctuated the same as if there was no list. So if it’s just a series of words:
There are four kinds of dog. What four?
- yappy
- snappy
- happy
- crappy
Then sure, no punctuation, there’s no real sentence involved.
Or it might be:
There are four kinds of dog. What four?
- Yappy dogs,
- snappy dogs,
- happy dogs, and
- crappy dogs.
But there is, it appears in the ID, which is in every suttaplex and in the navigation toolbar. Also, since it’s part of the metadata which is present on each page, we can change the appearance of these things if you’d like them to be more prominent.
Look, no need. For the lists, let’s just chalk it up to a stylistic preference for now, though personally I’d prefer if it were adjusted eventually. For the rule numbers, let me take them out, then we can see how it goes. If you think we need more visibility for the rule numbers on SC, we can look into that. It’s not hard to do.
Right.
Of course! I must have been distracted or tired when I wrote this!
Sure, I was following something I read years ago. But it is probably time for an update. I am happy to change this to include commas. However, I am not keen on semicolons. If a semicolon works so does a full stop. This probably means quite a few changes. I am not sure I will be able to get to these in time.
I am happy with all this!
And one more thing: I’ve made a change to bhikkhu pārājika 1 in bilara. Will this still make its way to the printed version?
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Never mind, next time.
Yes, just make sure all your texts are published. I’ll publish my final versions now, and make sure all footnotes, including yours are the latest version. Tomorrow, we’ll run generate the files one last time.
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Done! And we were even able to update the lists. Hopefully they will now be in reasonable harmony with yours. Good luck with the generation!
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Excellent, I’ve updated my published files and all the notes. @HongDa can you regenerate the files please.
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Bhante, got it, I’ll regenerate all the publication later.
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