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I was unsure; I am not a native speaker. In any case it’s not very clear when a pair and a single em-dash are in so close vicinity, within the same sentence even.

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You could read it the other way, i.e. ā€œWhere rises the sun […] there is a deep lakeā€.
That actually makes more sense to me, as otherwise ā€œit is said to be the day–there is a deep lakeā€ seems like two independent fragments, rather than a pause between related ones.

The third dash is pretty confusing to me too[1] and I agree that having too much of the same punctuation within a single sentence can be confusing too (it is often indicative of a run-on sentence too).


  1. as an essentially native speaker who aced AP English Literature back in the day :sweat_smile: ā†©ļøŽ

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DN32:7.38: And there’s Navanavutiya, Ambara-ambaravatiya,

Is it on purpose that the second part of the name ā€œAmbara-ambaravatiyaā€ has no capital? Perhaps this is my German mind looking at it …


Amamā, apariggahā is ā€œselfless and not possessiveā€ in AN9.21:1.3 and ā€œunselfish, without possessionsā€ in DN32:7.4.


DN16:1.22.1: Atha kho bhagavā sāyanhasamayaṁ nivāsetvā pattacÄ«varamādāya saddhiṁ bhikkhusaį¹…ghena yena āvasathāgāraṁ tenupasaį¹…kami; upasaį¹…kamitvā pāde pakkhāletvā āvasathāgāraṁ pavisitvā majjhimaṁ thambhaṁ nissāya puratthābhimukho nisÄ«di.
In the morning, the Buddha robed up and, taking his bowl and robe, went to the guest house together with the Saį¹…gha of mendicants. Having washed his feet, he entered the guest house and sat against the central column facing east.

ud8.6:3.1: Atha kho bhagavā nivāsetvā pattacÄ«varamādāya saddhiṁ bhikkhusaį¹…ghena yena āvasathāgāraṁ tenupasaį¹…kami; upasaį¹…kamitvā pāde pakkhāletvā āvasathāgāraṁ pavisitvā majjhimaṁ thambhaṁ nissāya puratthābhimukho nisÄ«di.
In the morning, the Buddha robed up and, taking his bowl and robe, went to the guest house together with the Saį¹…gha of mendicants. Having washed his feet, he entered the guest house and sat against the central column facing east.

In both these cases, it’s not morning, but evening. In DN16:1.22.1 this is explicitly stated, while in Ud8.6:3.1 no time of the day is mentioned, but we can see it from the context.

In the similar cases in DN33, MN53, and SN35.243 the translation has it correct.

SNP5.1 - first note:

ā€œÄ€įø·Ära Kālāma who taught the state of nothingsness as the highest realizationā€

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AN4.48:5.3: Subhāsitadhajā isayo,
Words well spoken are the seers’ banner,
AN4.48:5.4: dhammo hi isinaṁ dhajoā€ti.
for the teaching is the banner of the seers.ā€

I am wondering about the construction of line 5.3. Isayo isn’t genitive, but can be nominative, accusative, or vocative. Perhaps it should be something like:

Words well spoken are your banner, seers,
for the teaching is the banner of the seers.

The same occurs again in SN21.7.


AN5.112:1.4: Imehi kho, bhikkhave, paƱcahi dhammehi samannāgato pacchāsamaṇo na ādātabbo.
You shouldn’t take a second monk these five qualities.

A ā€œwithā€ is missing after ā€œmonkā€.


AN7.47:3.2: ā€œna kho, brāhmaṇa, tathāgatā evaṁ pucchitabbā:
ā€œBrahmin, you shouldn’t ask the Buddha in this way.

I understand tathāgatā to be nominative plural, agreeing with pucchitabbā. So it would be ā€œRealized Ones shouldn’t be asked in this way.ā€

Please correct me if I am wrong.

(Similarly further down in the same sutta in segment 3.4.)

There’s a missing with in SN 56.11 lines 4.7.

It’s the fading away and cessation of that very same craving with no residue left behind; giving it away, letting it go, releasing it, and not clinging to it. These are all terms for Nibbāna.

https://suttacentral.net/sn56.11/en/sujato?lang=en&layout=sidebyside&reference=none&notes=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin#4.7

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