Sujato/John Kelly Pali Courses: Resources

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This is wonderful news! Thank you very much, Ven Sobhana.

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This post will probably only be seen by students in John’s class. Do you intend it for the whole Forum community?

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It was already announced more widely here

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…Thank you. :pray:

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What is your best/favorite reference textbook on pāli grammar. I have been looking at these three, especially to understand syntax and usage. Just recently opened Duroiselle and finding it most clear & helpful (at my level):

Duroiselle, Charles. A Practical Grammar of the Pali Language. (1906) 3rd ed (1997): html version: A Practical Grammar of the Pali Language by Charles Duroiselle. pdf verion: https://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/paligram.pdf

Perniola, V. Pali Grammar (PTS Oxford 1997). [There is a pdf version online but probably a bootleg against copyright]

A. Bhikkhu (2023): Māgadhabhāsā (Pāḷi) A Compendious Grammar on the Language of Pāḷi Buddhism (Second Edition) Māgadhabhāsā (Pāḷi) – A Compendious Grammar on the Language of Pāḷi Buddhism – Sāsanārakkha Buddhist Sanctuary

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I could not see it either but if you search Pali there is a list of flashcards:

https://ankiweb.net/shared/decks?search=pali

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For whatever it’s worth, the DictTango app now supports importing a dictionary from file within the app, so it no longer requires a rooted Android or hooking up to a laptop :partying_face:

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I strongly recommend Steven Collins, A Pāli Grammar for Students. It’s a grammar reference book (not a teaching textbook). Published by Silkworm Books, 2005.

If your monastery, Dhammadharinī, doesn’t have a copy already in its library, Ayya, it would be my honour to donate one and have it sent to you. Please let me know.

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@johnk @stephen

what do you think of this book?

https://www.amazon.com.au/New-Course-Reading-Pali-Entering/dp/812081441X/ref=pd_lpo_sccl_1/356-6872581-2563806?pd_rd_w=Jl3He&content-id=amzn1.sym.e2b370ed-976d-41a5-9f5c-edef0e1c0e0e&pf_rd_p=e2b370ed-976d-41a5-9f5c-edef0e1c0e0e&pf_rd_r=CXAETJPXWTEYYQK1C3NT&pd_rd_wg=SWgFq&pd_rd_r=c5d45380-4223-49f4-8951-4cd549e0df46&pd_rd_i=812081441X&psc=1

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That looks to me to be the textbook you’re currently using

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Yes, that’s the Gair and Karunatillake (with a new cover!)

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And I thought it was another book!

Thank you. :pray:

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Thank you. :pray: :sunflower:

:mushroom:

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Thank you! I had forgotten about Collins. We do have one copy at our monastery.

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13 posts were split to a new topic: On the use of AI to support learning Pali

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Greetings fellow lay students,

Happy to report that pāli recordings of two of the suttas that Bhante Sujato recommended above for memorization are now available on the shared Google drive:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14hd872VeebgRrdY8H_dPUhOpZxNimUTn

The two suttas are:

For the Dhammacakkappavattanasutta, we’re fortunate to have Ven. Jiv.'s chanting (Sri Lanka tradition). We also have Frank’s reading in two versions: the original recording at Frank’s regular reading speed (120 bps) and a slowed-down recording at 90 bps.

For the Anattalakkhaṇasutta, we have Frank’s reading at his normal pace and a slowed-down pace.

(I produced the slowed-down versions using an audio app.)

It’s easy to have the SuttaCentral sutta open in one window and play the recording directly from the google file in another window. There’s no need to download the recordings.

I don’t have Frank’s explicit permission to offer these – he also hosts Ven. Jiv.'s recordings in several places on the Internet – but I did read his Creative Commons licensing information; I believe I’m complying with that until someone tells me otherwise :hushed: … I am trying to respect Frank’s preference for privacy.

Enjoy and let’s memorize some suttas!

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