The Myth of Meditation Techniques by Bhikkhu Anīgha

The Myth of Meditation Techniques by Bhikkhu Anīgha

Modern Buddhist practice revolves around attentional exercises like staying with the breath, scanning bodily sensations, visualization, noting mental events. Even when these approaches are given a narrative that sounds faithful to early Buddhist ideals—as “means to restrain the mind and purify it from defilements”—closer scrutiny than they usually receive shows that they cannot achieve those aims.

The common thread behind these exercises is revealed by what happens when you stop them: the attitude that disturbance requires action, which is what craving is, remains intact. When sooner or later an issue arises and you cannot rely on a technique, you will feel the pull to act—whether by indulging defilements or reaching for relief through distraction. Meditation techniques are one more response, just an arbitrarily permissible one, within the same pattern that makes indulgence necessary to abandon: circumventing immediate suffering while guaranteeing its eventual return.

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You have posted this in the discussion category. What do you want to discuss? Keeping in mind we don’t do personal practice discussions here and try to focus things on the early Buddhist texts.

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Apologies, I will change the category.

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I think it is largely impossible to judge different practices. The problem is that without having a deep experiential knowledge of them, we are left judging our own interpretation of someone else’s words.

Whichever form of practice I choose to follow, this in itself is a form of bias. If I attain to some deeper level of experience in meditation or for example stream entry, then this will tend to deepen my bias even more. What we are left with is an experiential knowledge of our own that we then compare to a conceptual knowledge of another and as that not so famous saying goes: ‘all conceptions are misconceptions’.

It is not humanly possible (as far as I know) to follow one path to say stream entry and then forget that and choose another in order to compare the two.

BTW, I think you included a number of nice sutta quotes regarding the path. What I am getting at is that there may be more than one way to get the skin off the cat (so to speak). When it comes to cats we can try them out, when it comes to awakening, not so.

No cats were harmed in the writing of this post.

Edit: So much depends on the attitude of the practitioner. If I approach a practice with curiosity, interest, persistence, strong desire these things can make up for maybe not the clearest instructions for example.

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Yes, I would find these essays much more useful if the that the author would simply concentrate on explaining the approach/practice/technique that he summarises here:

… the only context in which craving can be exposed and undermined at its root: the friction that arises when an impulse presses for relief and no escape—neither in indulgence nor denial—is sought. Withstanding this unrelieved tension is what trains the mind to lose its compulsions altogether.

rather than second-guessing other approaches.

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I’m mainly curious about whether or not the suttas list any sort of meditation technique. I’m familiar with the mindfulness of breathing sutta, which can be taken as a technique - are there any others? If there aren’t many, why not? To me, it seems like the suttas love lists - it would be right up their alley to have meditation technique lists.

I just want to clarify that I am not the author.

I don’t think this is true in general. One doesn’t have to have a running practice to know that it won’t make your arms bigger. Once the principle of the matter is understood, then it’s not too difficult to see what goes against that principle and cannot give you the results you desire.

Continuing with this analogy, if nibanna is bigger arms, it seems like the author thinks of the two different practices as direct hypertrophic arm work and running - two very different things with very different results. Whereas others seem to view them as just different arm exercises: you can do bicep curls, or pull ups, or diamond pushups - they will all lead you closer to the goal.

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One could say that the satipatthana suttas are meditation manuals, containing many instructions. The Dathuvibhanga sutta is detailed instructions on elements meditation. The culasuññatta sutta is pretty clear on instructions. These are just from the top of my head

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I took a look at those suttas. I agree that they contain meditation instructions - but they don’t seem to contain meditation techniques. Some of those suttas seem like they advocate development of certain themes by reflecting and contemplating, as well as increasing awareness in general, for the purposes of dispassion, disenchantment, and understanding.

And that should be seen as it actually is with proper wisdom thus: ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self.’ When one sees it thus as it actually is with proper wisdom, one becomes disenchanted with the earth element and makes the mind dispassionate towards the earth element.

I am currently unable to adequately elucidate the difference between how I view meditation instructions and how I view meditation techniques. But, if I had to take a stab at it, I view meditation techniques as being generally against discursive thought, whereas meditation instructions provide some topic to discursively think about. Apparently even the word “meditate” comes from the Latin meditari, meaning “to think over, reflect, or ponder”.

Ah, great point of discussion. Try to lead with that next time :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

There may be existing topics that cove that, so for a quicker solution you can always try the Forum search.

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That’s true, meditari in Latin means to think about something, but is also has the connotation of strong focused attention. I remember, when reading the Aeneid as a student, a passage where a lion is ‘meditari’ on his prey.

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So far, with my experience in Hillside Hermitage communiques, it seems they make %65 good points with %35 questionable declarations that sometimes directly challenge the suttas or stretch the meaning so far in a certain direction, presented in an unpleasant tone that it’s hard to reconcile how it fits into either the teaching on Right Speech, or instructions on how to teach Dharma:

"Monks, a statement endowed with five factors is well-spoken, not ill-spoken. It is blameless & unfaulted by knowledgeable people. Which five?

“It is spoken at the right time. It is spoken in truth. It is spoken affectionately. It is spoken beneficially. It is spoken with a mind of good-will.”

— AN 5.198

I question whether they’re spoken in truth, affectionally.

Or:

"Monks, do not wage wordy warfare, saying: ‘You don’t understand this Dhamma and discipline, I understand this Dhamma and discipline’; ‘How could you understand it? You have fallen into wrong practices: I have the right practice’; ‘You have said afterwards what you should have said first, and you have said first what you should have said afterwards’; ‘What I say is consistent, what you say isn’t’; ‘What you have thought out for so long is entirely reversed’; ‘Your statement is refuted’; ‘You are talking rubbish!’; ‘You are in the wrong’; ‘Get out of that if you can!’

— SN 56.9

For praising the importance of Gradual Path and Ethical Training, it would be beneficial to stick to the very clear instructions on how to Speak Rightly. Alas, we’re all lacking in certain departments, and it takes nuance and care to raise concerns over such details.

Let’s start with the opening paragraph:

“Modern Buddhist practice revolves around attentional exercises like staying with the breath, scanning bodily sensations, visualization, noting mental events. Even when these approaches are given a narrative that sounds faithful to early Buddhist ideals—as “means to restrain the mind and purify it from defilements”—closer scrutiny than they usually receive shows that they cannot achieve those aims.”

The common thread behind these exercises is revealed by what happens when you stop them: the attitude that disturbance requires action, which is what craving is, remains intact. When sooner or later an issue arises and you cannot rely on a technique, you will feel the pull to act—whether by indulging defilements or reaching for relief through distraction. Meditation techniques are one more response, just an arbitrarily permissible one, within the same pattern that makes indulgence necessary to abandon: circumventing immediate suffering while guaranteeing its eventual return. By Bhikkhu Anīgha

Since Bhikkhu here doesn’t give specific examples, but instead makes straw-man arguments, it’s kinda hard to argue against their declarations.

Let’s tackle these one by one:

  • Staying with the Breath: It’s hard to understand how the Bhikkhu finds modern Breath meditation practice different from MN 118 Ānāpānasatisutta’s declarations.
  • Scanning Bodily Sensations: MN 10 Mahāsatipaṭṭhānasutta is the obvious link here. Perhaps the Bhikkhu doesn’t think the Four Elements contemplation of the body is compatible with the modern meditation techniques.
  • Visualization: Again, it’s hard to say what Bhikkhu here is talking about. Some practices (Metta, Charnel Ground, etc.) could be examplified as Visualisation; certain Sati practices could be examplified in Visualisation.
  • Noting Mental Events: I would think the suttas are of nothing but such techniques.
Satipatthana

And how does a mendicant meditate observing an aspect of feelings?

It’s when a mendicant who feels a pleasant feeling knows: ‘I feel a pleasant feeling.’
When they feel a painful feeling, they know: ‘I feel a painful feeling.’
When they feel a neutral feeling, they know: ‘I feel a neutral feeling.’
When they feel a pleasant feeling of the flesh, they know: ‘I feel a pleasant feeling of the flesh.’
When they feel a pleasant feeling not of the flesh, they know: ‘I feel a pleasant feeling not of the flesh.’
When they feel a painful feeling of the flesh, they know: ‘I feel a painful feeling of the flesh.’
When they feel a painful feeling not of the flesh, they know: ‘I feel a painful feeling not of the flesh.’
When they feel a neutral feeling of the flesh, they know: ‘I feel a neutral feeling of the flesh.’
When they feel a neutral feeling not of the flesh, they know: ‘I feel a neutral feeling not of the flesh.’

And so they meditate observing an aspect of feelings internally, externally, and both internally and externally. They meditate observing feelings as liable to originate, as liable to fall, and as liable to both originate and vanish. Or mindfulness is established that feelings exist, to the extent necessary for knowledge and mindfulness. They meditate independent, not grasping at anything in the world.

That’s how a mendicant meditates by observing an aspect of feelings.

And how does a mendicant meditate observing an aspect of the mind?

It’s when a mendicant understands mind with greed as ‘mind with greed,’ and mind without greed as ‘mind without greed.’ They understand mind with hate as ‘mind with hate,’ and mind without hate as ‘mind without hate.’ They understand mind with delusion as ‘mind with delusion,’ and mind without delusion as ‘mind without delusion.’ They know constricted mind as ‘constricted mind,’ and scattered mind as ‘scattered mind.’ They know expansive mind as ‘expansive mind,’ and unexpansive mind as ‘unexpansive mind.’ They know mind that is not supreme as ‘mind that is not supreme,’ and mind that is supreme as ‘mind that is supreme.’ They know mind immersed in samādhi as ‘mind immersed in samādhi,’ and mind not immersed in samādhi as ‘mind not immersed in samādhi.’ They know freed mind as ‘freed mind,’ and unfreed mind as ‘unfreed mind.’

And so they meditate observing an aspect of the mind internally, externally, and both internally and externally. They meditate observing the mind as liable to originate, as liable to fall, and as liable to both originate and vanish. Or mindfulness is established that the mind exists, to the extent necessary for knowledge and mindfulness. They meditate independent, not grasping at anything in the world.

That’s how a mendicant meditates by observing an aspect of the mind.

It is worth noting that, suttas are full of technical strategies to overcome certain afflictions:

  • Asūbha: Buddha specifically taught the attractiveness contemplation to overcome lust, for example.
  • Purifying Mental Clutter: MN 20 teaches explicitly five methods for overcoming unskillful thoughts:

Now, suppose that mendicant is focusing on some other subject connected with the skillful, but bad, unskillful thoughts connected with desire, hate, and delusion keep coming up. They should examine the drawbacks of those thoughts: ‘So these thoughts are unskillful, they’re blameworthy, and they result in suffering.’ As they do so, those bad thoughts are given up and come to an end. Their mind becomes stilled internally; it settles, unifies, and becomes immersed in samādhi. Suppose there was a woman or man who was young, youthful, and fond of adornments. If the carcass of a snake or a dog or a human were hung around their neck, they’d be horrified, repelled, and disgusted. In the same way, a mendicant … should examine the drawbacks of those thoughts …

The common thread behind these exercises is revealed by what happens when you stop them: the attitude that disturbance requires action, which is what craving is, remains intact.

In MN 73 (and many other places), Buddha retreats because his back is sore. In DN 16, Buddha asks Ananda for some water.

So, these are disturbances for which Buddha asks for assistance in overcoming. I think Bhikkhu overreaches in his war against “desire”, because accordingly, most if not all of the Suttas would need to be discarded. In fact, I don’t see how anything other than stopping completely still and dying on the spot could be excluded from Bhikkhu’s declaration.

Furthermore, if disturbances do not require action, it’s unclear to me why Bhikkhu is interested in talking about Dhamma at all in the first place.

In fact, the very desire to have desire removed could also be seen declared A disturbance that requires action". If the Bhikkhu doesn’t discriminate between modes of desire and their skillfulness on the path, then why desire the end of desiring in the first place? If the disturbance (Presence of Desire) doesn’t require action (Removing of Desire), why practice at all in the first place? It seems we’re doomed if we do, doomed if we don’t.

Lastly, there’s some nuance that needs to be emplyed when discussing dhamma.

  • SNP 3.2 has the Bodhisatta declaring he doesn’t need merit.
  • SNP 3.4 has instructions for a person seeking merit.

It’s important to hold nuance and compassion in Dharma discussion.

Anyway, I could go on, but I’ll stop here.

It’s admirable that Bhikkhu is praising the Gradual Path and Ethical Conduct, along with Sense Restraint, but I would think it’s possible to praise such things without directly contradicting the suttas, without using dismissive, harsh speech, so on and so forth. :slight_smile:

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As far as I understand the Buddha’s teachings, he was adamant that the intention of an action is what determines its result. When I apply this teaching rigorously I can only conclude that the technique used is almost beside the point, as long as there is the intention to see reality as it is. Then you use discernment and wisdom to check whether the technique is yielding the results you want. If not, switch something up. The lack of techniques in the suttas, alongside the frequent reminders about the goal of meditation, seem to support this view.

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Yes, this is what they teach. Noble endurance. If you see that unwholesome thoughts appear in you mind and want to remove them immediately, you are unwise man who act out of aversion.

First of all, aversion towards unwholesome mental states and wisdom: “this is painful”, seems to be indistinguishable, but it looks like if someone from HH removes such thoughts it is wisdom, others who never heard about noble endurance are just victims of aversion.

In Buddha’s Teaching pain/pleasure principle is fundamental, we always follow what is pleasant and avoid what seems painful. The point is that practicing Dhamma consist in redefinition or what is pleasant and what is painful.

Guided by the Dhamma one should know that mental unwholesome states are painful, and remove them as quickly as possible. This is what Buddha says.

Noble endurance regarding sesnsory experience, that’s fine, but noble endurance of aversion and teaching about great danger of aversion towards aversion sounds rather strange.

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While there are suttas that explicitly instruct as such, again, in MN 20 for example :slight_smile:

Now, suppose that mendicant is examining the drawbacks of those thoughts, but bad, unskillful thoughts connected with desire, hate, and delusion keep coming up. They should try to forget and ignore them. As they do so, those bad thoughts are given up and come to an end.

Hence it’s hard to make sense of Bhikkhu’s exposition. :slight_smile:

Or else, his declaration:

It is the result of treating practices the Buddha taught only to renunciates as viable for everyone, and of granting leeway in behavioral purification when there ought to be none.

This is factually wrong, with Householder Citta being renown for his prowess in meditation. See SN 41.1–SN 41.10 (Citta-saṃyutta).

In some of these, Citta asks questions to mendicants; in others, mendicants ask questions to Citta. Sn 41.6 has Citta asking meditation related questions.

In fact, Sn 41.7 has a bhikkhu asking Citta details on advanced meditation instructions:

At one time Venerable Godatta was staying near Macchikāsaṇḍa in the Wild Mango Grove. Then Citta the householder went up to Venerable Godatta, bowed, and sat down to one side. Godatta said to him:

“Householder, the limitless release of the heart, and the release of the heart through nothingness, and the release of the heart through emptiness, and the signless release of the heart: do these things differ in both meaning and phrasing? Or do they mean the same thing, and differ only in the phrasing?”

MN 52 has Ananda teaching meditation to Dasama the Householder.

SN 47.29 has Ananda visit the sick Sirivaḍḍha the Householder, who urges him to practice satipatthana.

AN 9.41 has Buddha talking about meditation to Tapussa the Householder.

AN5.179 has Buddha talking about the meditative states that householders enjoy in order to become stream-enterers.


So, it’s unclear if Bhikkhu is trying to suggest that Buddha didn’t teach the modern meditation techniques, or that he taught them exclusively to monastics.

As I see it, both points seem to contradict basic sutta expositions. :slight_smile:

As I said earlier, it’s admirable that Bhikkhu is praising the importance of sense restraint:

As passages like the following show, the foundation—”your mind is internally steady, well settled, and arisen unbeneficial phenomena are not able to obsess it”—is established not by any contemplative practice, but by prior training in correct restraint, which in itself steadies the mind.

However, there’s a way to underline the importance of it in a compassionate & pleasant way, without blatantly contradicting the suttas. :slight_smile:

Mendicants, speech that has four factors is well spoken, not poorly spoken. It’s blameless and is not criticized by sensible people. What four? It’s when a mendicant speaks well, not poorly; their speech is principled, not unprincipled; they speak pleasantly, not unpleasantly; and they speak truthfully, not falsely. Speech with these four factors is well spoken, not poorly spoken. It’s blameless and is not criticized by sensible people. Sn8.5

For how they are underlying the importance of Sīla on the path, one can’t help wonder whether their speech is in line with these instructions. :slight_smile:

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Craving for sensual pleasures is merely certain aspect of more general tanha, bhava tanha doesn’t appear as impulse, it is continuosly present. And it can be expressed in many ways.

“I am a teacher”, afirms asmimana. And here I wonder, whether one who teaches that sotapanna regerding the attitude towards painful feeling is on the same level as arahat, should not try to withstanding this unrelieved tension of conceiving oneself to be a teacher?

“Bhikkhus, these two qualities lead to the decline of a bhikkhu who is a trainee. What two? (200) Anger and hostility … (201) Denigration and insolence … (202) Envy and miserliness … (203) Deceitfulness and craftiness … (204) Moral shamelessness and moral recklessness. These two qualities lead to the decline of a bhikkhu who is a trainee.”

AN 2: 200/4

So the guy who is capable of anger and hostility, suddenly regarding painful bodily feeling changes for arahat-like creature.

It would be good if venerable teacher explained first how sotapanna not freed from aversion has totally abandon aversion towards painful bodily feeling.

Because meditation is rather complicated subject, and it is hard to treat seriously one who promotes such ideas.

Well, I don’t mind that someone considers himself as the wisest. Someone has to be the wisest. I merely have objections regarding the quality of value judgement in this particular case :blush:

Yes, Lord Buddha :lotus: :folded_hands:

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On this forum - Muslims may have another opinion - there is rather 100% agreement with that.

But who in modern times understands Lord Buddha’s Teaching? He would be presently the wisest, and it would be wise thing to trust him, and follow his ideas and recommendations.

Venerables from HH in rather unequivocal way suggest that they are such group. Friend Dogen finds some problems with such way of speech. But it may be just motivated by compassion, to shake all the other Buddhist who in their delusion think that there is nothing noble in tolerating and not removing as quickly as possible any unwholesome mental state.

So here I disagree with friend Dogen, and the main problem for me is unrealistic optimism and regarding oneself as wiser than others. I would not mind to be scold and harshly reprimanded if only it would help me to understand Dhamma.

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It’s not just their heavy-handed way of speech; it’s also how they’re misrepresenting the suttas.

It’s fine to question the suttas, it’s also fine if you don’t believe in them. Or, you can say “I don’t think Buddha actually taught meditation to non-renunciates, despite what the suttas say” (personal opinion, sure!)

But when one makes such obviously false declarations like “Buddha didn’t teach meditation to non-renunciates”, that’s overstepping, when suttas are ripe with instances of Buddha teaching it to lay folk. :slight_smile:

For example, again, Citta the Householder, as a non-returner, is reknown for having achieved meditative prowess.

Sn 41.6 describes his learning about Nirodha from monks, Sn 41.7 has him teaching details of advanced meditation teachings to monks, Sn 41.8 has him declaring he has achieved fourth jhāna.

So, is it fair to declare:

It is the result of treating practices the Buddha taught only to renunciates as viable for everyone.

And if someone can so blatantly misrepresent the suttas, then their wisdom would be questionable, don’t you think? :slight_smile:

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