Thoughts on Past-Life Memories, NDEs, OBEs, Precognition

There’s a free ebook titled Scientific Evidence for Reincarnation, NDEs, and Karma with Personal Stories published by the Open Research Consortium and promise to shows you the truth about reincarnation. It’s a 1,600+ page compilation that aggregates hundreds of historical anecdotes, past-life regression accounts, and paranormal claims, drawing heavily on early researchers like Ian Stevenson. I bring it up here because it’s the most comprehensive aggregation of accounts up to date, and the interesting thing is that it contains precisely zero dual-control proof, meaning studies that independently isolate information leakage from the start and have their results independently peer-verified.

I do not put much stock in personal anecdotes or testimonies because humans are notoriously unreliable when it comes to memory and objectivity. There are massive risks of information leakage, confirmation bias, memory distortion, substance-induced hallucinations, mental illnesses, ulterior motives, and countless other confounding variables.

For past-life memories, what prevents the subjects, or their parents, from simply researching the details beforehand and fabricating a story? I would be much more interested in cases where someone remembers a past life as an disgusting insect, like a dung beetle or a flesh fly. Why is it always a historical human figure, God-like entities, or someone with a dramatic, easily researchable backstory?

When it comes to Near-Death Experiences (NDEs), they do not actually prove what death or the afterlife looks like. If a person is truly dead, they are not coming back to tell the story isn’t it? It’s always “I died and saw the embodiment of Love” or I died and saw Buddha being cooked in the Sea of Fire, muh we must listen to the Christians man, they’re the only ones who know the Truth, and Jesus is the only true God. No you weren’t dead hence it’s why you’re still here, and your bias brain was just hallucinated or made things up. These cases at best are just glorified delusions happening in a failing brain that grasping for straws. That is why people consistently see Jesus, specific religious figures, lovely beings, light tunnels, their opponents in hell, or deceased family members. It’s a clear manifestation of deeply ingrained cultural conditioning, psychological yearning, or just pure and condensed horse manure.

This was demonstrated by the AWARE Study, a large-scale medical study led by Dr. Sam Parnia. Researchers placed randomized target images on high shelves near the ceilings of cardiac arrest wards, completely invisible from the floor or a hospital bed. Out of more than 2,000 cardiac arrest cases analyzed across multiple hospitals, there was not a single confirmed instance of an out-of-body patient being able to read or identify those hidden visual targets.

For Out-of-Body Experiences (OBEs), to be taken seriously, the experiencer should be able to read a specific sentence written on a piece of paper hidden inside a sealed container. If they are truly detached from their physical body and aware of the external environment, this should be easy. But all we get are vague and high-probability guesses like the movements of the medical staff or the operation of the equipment. These are things anyone can easily deduce or pick up through sensory leakage, especially in a hospital.

The same goes for precognition. If someone can see the future, they should be able to accurately name the upcoming lottery numbers, and do it two or three times in a row to prove it is not a fluke. Anyone can make vague, open-ended guesses and retroactively claim they predicted an event. Repeated and hyper-specific accuracy is the only thing that actually makes a difference.

The story of 2yo Dhammaruwan chanting Pali suttas is a tragedy more than anything else, it’s just textbook childhood drilling. Growing up in a deeply devout household provided ample opportunity for passive auditory mimicry. The reality of his daily routine is disturbing to say the least: waking a toddler at 2:00 AM every single morning for rigid meditation and hours of exhausting vocal recitations, what’s that if not intense domestic coaching?

I genuinely want the afterlife and psychic powers to be true (and I’m on the same boat with Siha AN5.34#7.9 where he has to put faith on the Buddha regarding these matters), but to claim for a fact that there is rebirth and there’s proof of it, are an entirely different caliber. Anecdotes and testimonies are not evidence, even more so for extraordinary claims, and the empirical data to date remains at absolute zero. Anyone claiming proof of rebirth or paranormal phenomena must provide data from a rigorous, dual-control framework, utilizing randomized, double-blind, and independently peer-verified environments that completely eliminate placebo effects and isolate information leakage from the start. That of which separates Big Pharma rigorous drug testing from alternate medicine snake-oil grifters. Because without this, any unfalsifiable claim goes.

Until then, I’m quite tired by the endless claims of past-life princes, princesses, heroic veterans, prominent figures, seing Jesus, or seing the Buddha suffer in hell as the “proof” of rebirth or afterlife. Show me a case of someone who remembers being a dung beetle or NDE of becoming a flesh fly maggot for a change, rather than a predictable projection of human ego, cultural yearning, or just outright fraudulence.

How many past life cases books have you read? I read a few and just a few cases in, I can see that it’s not feasible to explain all the cases away by fraud and parents tutoring the children. Especially for cases where the parents were not believers in rebirth and that the exposure to the investigation is an disadvantage to them. Reputation wise etc.

By Occam’s razor, it’s simpler to just see that children spontaneously recalling past lives are genuine. Rather than all such cases are hoaxes. Maybe some are, but there’s enough real cases for it to be solid evidences, enough for a court of law. And court of law decides life and death situations.

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Personally, I have utmost confidence in the Buddha and his knowledge of rebirth and rebirth’s central and essential importance to his full awakening.

Other than that, I don’t really need any outside proof, but I don’t think it’s prudent to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Also, if the Open Research Consortium tried to get firsthand accounts from the Sangha, the vinaya would stand in the way!

For this particular tangent — when one reflects this very life, are we more likely to remember our best (and worst?) moments, or our mundane, boring moments? :slight_smile:

Being a dung beetle would be likely unmemorable, compared to being a god, or suffering massively in hell. I guess.

Also, I have seen people claim plain past lives (One mentioned being a tree…). People with such humble stories probably aren’t making the headlines and those people aren’t rustling anyone’s feathers. It’s the ones whose past life experiences bring up traumatic and/or immense feelings that get told to others and more, and those people are found by the researchers, I’d assume.

On the whole, I have never really researched into the past-lives recounts, precisely because it’s hard to verify for myself their own claims, and it makes zero difference to me either way. :slight_smile:

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Yeah I wouldn’t believe those studies, I would believe in running the experiment that can be reproduced and experience as the arbiter of truth (edit: as in… ehipassiko)

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As one on the same boat with general Siha your faith is enough to “know” that there is rebirth and other paranormal phenomena. Quotes mark since as far as ownership of action goes, we act based on things what we known directly as true, or what are believed by us as true. So faith is faculty which replaces knowledge in the case of experience where ignorance predominates.

I don’t know what you mean regarding alternative medicine, but since as I said we act based on what we know, perhaps it would be useful foryou to know that there is no double blind control study to show that vaccines offer a higher level of immunity than by taking a placebo or by doing nothing at all. I wonder why there has never been such a study. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)'s official argument against studying the harmful effects of vaccines in humans is that any such a study (on humans) is ‘unethical’. So you comparsion with Big Pharma is not well chosen, apart that there is still element of faith, that data wasn’t falsified (by paranormal researchers as well Big Pharma workers). So faith is rather important factor in our experience

Coming back to paranormal, while such phenomena indeed cannot be proved scientifically, they nevertheless are observed, and they cannot be proved by science to be totally fictious phenomena, as well.

But they can be investigated, and science can make judgement, that observed phenomenon in fact cannot be explained by materialistic ideas.

Included in the group, along with Poniatowski and Balcer, were Michael Kamienski, professor of astronomy and director of the Astronomical Observatory, University of Warsaw, whose work in celestial mechanics had brought him world fame; Jan Lukasiewicz, one of the most emminent mathematicians and logicians of the century; Stefan Manczarski, world class geophysicist; and Witold Henser, one of Poland’s leading archaeologists. They were not there by chance or out of curiosity. It was a basic premise of Poniatowski’s approach to psychic archaeology that the research should always be interdisciplinary.

Consequently, for the entire two-part sequence of thirty-three experiments men and women of world stature were present; each was invited to provide commentary on the results of questions Poniatowski planned to put to Ossowiecki in matters concerning their specialties. This list, in fact, is one of the more remarkable things about this unique research project. At a time when Dr. J. B. Rhine and his wife Dr. Louisa Rhine in the United States were finding it difficult to get American scientists to take their parapsychological research seriously, Professor Poniatowski established an advisory and support group seventy-five percent of whose membership is still to be found listed in encyclopedias

Secret Vaults of Time

Stephen Schwartz

The quote is about experiments with Polish psychic Stefan Ossowiecki. He quite often cooperated with scientists. The data obtained doesn’t stand for “proved phenomenon”, but at least seriously stands for information that to believe in such phenomenon has some justification- for these who want to believe, as it is in your case.

This documentary is very interesting; it helped me a lot to understand reincarnation (rebirth). I hope you enjoy it.

Past Lives: Stories of Reincarnation 輪迴的故事 1 (Discovery Channel)

Past Lives: Stories of Reincarnation 輪迴的故事 2 (Discovery Channel)

Past Lives: Stories of Reincarnation 輪迴的故事 3 (Discovery Channel)

Past Lives: Stories of Reincarnation 輪迴的故事 4 (Discovery Channel)

Past Lives: Stories of Reincarnation 輪迴的故事 5 (Discovery Channel)

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This thread will remain closed due to some posts using YouTube videos as “proof” for rebirth and reincarnation.

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