Lol. I didn’t know about that. It’s just another out of thousands of surreal evilness or stupidity episodes present in the old testament. For more: http://www.evilbible.com/
When discussing this with christians, some will be so shocked about it that they’ll ask to check it in the bible, the romanian paper version, not on some english website on the internet, thinking it’s surely something fake.
From my experience, the problem with the monstruosity of the old testament is something even the most radical christians will concede. That’s why it should always be brought up, because I’ve yet to see a person not to concede that it’s an evil and barbaric book that could not be more at odds with what Jesus preached. Even priest concede this very easy. Most christians are like “don’t ask us about that, it has nothing to do with christianity, we’re all about the new testament”.
The strongest argument against christianity and the only one that, in my experience, can heavily shake even a radical is the problem of this being the first life. This is in my opinion by far the achiles heel of the religion of Constantine. The way to present the argument is like this:
Do you believe in justice in this world ? Do you believe that good deeds and bad deeds do have an effect ? Or do you rather thing it’s all random ?
- he will of course say yes
Then, continue with: There are no people in this world as evil and stupid as to punish an innocent person for the deeds of another person. Have you ever seen a tribunal, from any country, even the most backwards, ever do such a thing ?(you need to ask, not just tell, you need to hear this from his mouth) No tribunal in this world, not even in North Korea, would even convict the son for the deeds committed by his father. Nowhere in this world will you see a tribunal sending the son of a criminal to prison, for a crime committed by his father. Such an idea is primitive, injust, and simply ridiculous to any intelligent and fair person. Don’t you agree ?
So… why are some people born with no hands and feet, while others are born with extreme wealth and all good qualities that a human can posses ? How could this brutal punishment, such as cutting of hands and feet, be done to an innocent person for the deeds committed by a different person ?
There are some answers they can give, but all will lack substance, and they will know it. No need to even bother too much debating what they will answer, **the bomb has been already placed.**Don’t get angry at the stupid replies that will come after this question, rather try to ridicule them with a smile on your face and an “c’mon man” attitude. Put pressure to make the person feel backwards and stupid, because that’s what those answers are, but in a subtle way.
From my experience, this has a huge impact on any person, even on radicals. They will start thinking about it at home and then move to believing in reincarnation. 33% of people believe in reincarnation even in my country, a christian version of saudi arabia. Arsenie Boca, a famous monks, nr 1 most esteemed in Romania, believed in reincarnation too. It’s not too difficult for a christian to swich to believing in reincarnation. He pretty much can’t stop doing it after being presented with the bomb.
But this will not necessarily make him a buddhist. Even at this point of conceding so much, the last thing to concede is the existence of God. So give another couple of months for the reincarnation beliefs to settle in before moving further. Move forward only when you feel you can touch this last point.
Never start your debate (and by debate I mean years of debate with a person, not 1 single debate) with attacking the existence of God or, god forbid, anything bad about Jesus. Jesus is your common ground. And also, focus on showing that atheism is refuted too. It’s very important to do this and position yourself as on the same side with the christian, the side of religion vs atheism. You need to make it very clear that you’re strongly against atheism because it is refuted.