What would you classify aliens as in the 31 realms of existence?

Yes, @LucasOliveira

Originally they started Project Stargate to use remote viewing to spy on the Russians, what they found was aliens instead lol. They also describe planes of existence just like the suttas, except they call it focus levels.

The image you linked is from a project stargate and the Monroe Institute which uses binaural audio to synchronize both hemispheres of the brain which leads to remote viewing and out of body experiences. It’s called the Gateway Tapes, I tried it and it’s very similar to meditation, getting you to relax without falling asleep, etc…

While some Western Buddhists find it difficult to believe in life after death, other plans of existence, rebirth …

Western government agencies, in addition to studying, want to take advantage of this knowledge.

:anjal:

Buddhist cosmology of the Theravada school

Human Beings (manussa loka)

5 - Human (manussa loka): Birth in this plane results from giving and moral discipline of middling quality. This is the realm of moral choice where destiny can be guided. The Khana Sutta mentioned that this plane is a unique balance of pleasure and pain. It facilitates the development of virtue and wisdom to liberate oneself from the entire cycle or rebirths. For this reason rebirth as a human being is considered precious according to the Chiggala Sutta.
Buddhist cosmology - Wikipedia

The Characteristics of Humans may well be the Characteristics of Some Species of Aliens.

Humans (Homo sapiens) are a species of highly intelligent primates. They are the only extant members of the subtribe Hominina and—together with chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans—are part of the family Hominidae (the great apes, or hominids). Humans are terrestrial animals, characterized by their erect posture and bipedal locomotion; high manual dexterity and heavy tool use compared to other animals; open-ended and complex language use compared to other animal communications; larger, more complex brains than other primates; and highly advanced and organized societies.[3][4]
Human - Wikipedia

some recluse or a brahmin, by means of ardour, endeavour, application, diligence, and right reflection, attains to such a degree of mental concentration that with his mind thus concentrated, [purified, clarified, unblemished, devoid of corruptions], he recollects his numerous past lives: that is, (he recollects) one birth, two, three, four, or five births; ten, twenty, thirty, forty, or fifty births; a hundred, a thousand, or a hundred thousand births; many hundreds of births, many thousands of births, many hundreds of thousands of births. (He recalls:) ‘Then I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance; such was my food, such my experience of pleasure and pain, such my span of life. Passing away thence, I re-arose there. There too I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance; such was my food, such my experience of pleasure and pain, such my span of life. Passing away thence, I re-arose here.’ Thus he recollects his numerous past lives in their modes and their details.

a certain recluse or brahmin, by means of ardour, endeavour, application, diligence, and right reflection, attains to such a degree of mental concentration that with his mind thus concentrated he recollects his numerous past lives: that is, (he recollects his past lives throughout) one aeon of world-contraction and expansion (expansion and contraction of the Universe) , throughout two, three, four, five, or ten aeons of world-contraction and expansion. (He recalls:) ‘Then I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance; such was my food, such my experience of pleasure and pain, such my span of life. Passing away thence, I re-arose there. There too I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance; such was my food, such my experience of pleasure and pain, such my span of life. Passing away thence, I re-arose here.’ Thus he recollects his numerous past lives in their modes and their details.

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This quote can also be used to explain many types of births on other planets and alien families

(He recalls:) ‘Then I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance; such was my food, such my experience of pleasure and pain, such my span of life. Passing away thence, I re-arose there. There too I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance; such was my food, such my experience of pleasure and pain, such my span of life. Passing away thence, I re-arose here.’ Thus he recollects his numerous past lives in their modes and their details.

Poll Says Species You’d Want to Belong to Is…
https://intl.startrek.com/article/poll-says-species-you-d-want-to-belong-to-is

There are reports of past lives on other planets…

20-year-old Russian Man Named Boriska Mipriyanovich Says he Lived on Mars Before Being Reborn on Earth
He further said that the Martians can execute interstellar travel. His mother said that the man used to talk about aliens when he was a child and nobody taught him about Mars.

FBI report: Nikola Tesla, inventor of wireless technology, an alien from Venus

https://vault.fbi.gov/nikola-tesla/Nikola%20Tesla%20Part%2003%20of%2003

If we can be reborn in the animal world with infinite different species …

the same goes for lives on other planets and in different species.

https://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?p=620266#p620266

:anjal:

Well some people in reddit told that in their past life they were alien but living on other planet

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For those who claimed to be from another planet in their past lives, it might be more convincing if they can actually show the tech from those planets which we don’t have here.

Or the martian guy can help the Mars rovers to find exactly the site of those ancient cities of Mars, just let them hit jackpot then it’s very convincing if the source is from him.

Ok, fine, now I understand why some other people are naturally skeptical when I presented past life evidences (from earth to earth, human to human).

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Well, perhaps this may be an alternative explanation for it all… :joy:

Are Memories Really Stored In The Brain?

A Quantum Theoretical Non-local Model of Human Memory

Nicholas H.E. Prince

ABSTRACT
The possibility of a radically new mechanism to explain the
functioning of human long-term memory is considered.
After reviewing orthodox nodal and connectionist (internal)
memory models, an alternative model is proposed. This
model assumes at the outset that memories are not stored in
the brain at all. Rather it is proposed that the brain operates
more like an aerial rather than an internal memory storage
device. The model assumes also that decoherence effects
do not invalidate a quantum theoretical treatment of the
brain subsystems responsible for memory recall and it is
shown how memories are recovered atemporally (non
locally in time) from at least the past null cone of the
recipient.
The cosmological consequences of the atemporal physics
underpinning the model are reviewed in terms of the nature
and emergence of well defined sub-atomic particles in early
times following the big bang. Also it is explained how the
model gives a quite natural explanation to certain reported
effects such as E.S.P, psychic phenomena and reincarnation
experiences.

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But can we call that place where all lifes information are stored as self ?

Can we assume that such a storage is permanent ?

There’s no self anywhere, no permanent conditioned thing.

It’s just taking things to be self.

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How do you explain that one can access past life information then ?

Do you argue that some past life information are lost due to age/impermanence ?

We can go philosophically into the ontological status of things which we might find it more convenient intellectually to regard as permanent.

Eg. Laws of physics, Platonic world of maths.

It could be argued that maybe they are not part of sankharas, since we don’t expect the Platonic world of maths to ever change even if there’s another universe with different laws of Physics.

I am not an expert in ontology in philosophy, so I’ll just leave it as, don’t identify anything as self. That’s the teaching.

Your words are too high for me bhante my iq is not that high so please show your compassion to me by explaining it using normal words :pray:

Maybe my questions were not clear, I will rephrase them,

do you think the storage is permanent/eternal or not, do you think past life data/information could be lost or not ?

I don’t know if there’s such a thing as storage, I dunno how past life recall works. So I dunno if it could be lost too.

What we know from the suttas is that there’s limited lifespan, we cannot recall all infinite past lives, so due to practical consideration alone, one could say that too long ago lifetimes are practically lost to us.

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Researching more about this word that means the Human Kingdom…

Human beings in Buddhism

Humans in Buddhism (Sanskrit: मनुष्य, IAST: manuṣya, Pali manussa) are the subjects of an extensive commentarial literature that examines the nature and qualities of a human life from the point of view of humans’ ability to achieve enlightenment. In Buddhism, humans are just one type of sentient being, that is a being with a mindstream. In Sanskrit Manushya means an Animal with a mind. In Sanskrit the word Manusmriti associated with Manushya was used to describe knowledge through memory. The word Muun or Maan means mind. Mind is collection of past experience with an ability of memory or smriti. Mind is considered as an animal with a disease that departs a soul from its universal enlightened infinitesimal behavior to the finite miserable fearful behavior that fluctuates between the state of heaven and hell before it is extinguished back to its infinitesimal behavior.

In Buddhism, humans have a very special status: only a human can attain enlightenment as a fully enlightened Buddha. Enlightenment as an arhat can be attained from the realms of the Śuddhāvāsa deities. A bodhisattva can appear in many different types of lives, for instance as an animal or as a deva. Buddhas, however, are always human.[1]

Human beings in Buddhism - Wikipedia

I liked the explanation about “Manu” in Hinduism …

but this one explains in the Buddhist view is very interesting too.

:anjal:

Hello NgXinZhao,
Perhaps, but such scenario has changed for a long time. As a European, what amazes me is that there are still those who do not understand, how absurd it is not to accept the existence of other forms of sentient life as ours or more complex and resourceful in the Universe/ Multiverse. Which includes beings invisible to our naked eye,etc.

Reimagining gods as extraterrestrials is an old thing in sci-fi.

It has been done for decades.

I personally don’t believe in devas or the other paranormal beings described in the Sutta Pitaka.

I would be happy if the names of those types of beings would be left untranslated as the word “gods” have a lot of baggage. Confusing too, as that word is used for both devas and the other type of “god”.

Sakka (ruler of the gods) is the ruler of the Trāyastriṃśa Heaven according to Buddhist cosmology. The following article by Choong Mun-keat may be relevant to the topic/issue (aliens):

"A comparison of the Pali and Chinese versions of the Sakka Samyutta , a collection of early Buddhist discourses on ‘Sakra, ruler of the gods’ ", in Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society , vol. 22, issue 3-4, October 2012 (Cambridge University Press), pp. 561–574.

Maybe soon we’ll be able to just ask them.

I wonder if we can classify them as devas if they have the ability to become invisible caused by using some kind of cloaking device.

I think if aliens refer to foreign nationals or living beings who are not citizens or nationals of a specific country, then, they can be devas ‘deities’.

So, the Sagatha vagga of SN/SA records early Buddhist ‘adaptation’ of many general Indian religious beliefs about alines/devas:
Devata, Devaputta, Mara, Brahma, Vana, Yakkha, and Sakka (ruler of the gods), which are featured in the Sagatha vagga of SN/SA.

Also, a group of sequential collections in SN 29-32 about early Buddhist ‘adaptations’ of Vedic mythical beliefs:
Nagas ‘mythical dragons/snakes’, supannas/garudas ‘mythical birds’, gandhabbas ‘fragrant plant devas’, and valahakas ‘cloud devas’. These can be aliens/devas.

Could you please tell me the exact Agama number? It seems very, very interesting.