"Where is this prayer from?" question brakes Google's AI

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“Where is this prayer from?” question brakes Google’s AI

Every session of my prayers begin with the prayer “Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammāsaṃbuddhassa”. I am curious as to where it came from, which is a question that may actually turn into “what is the oldest text in which it is found?”

Which brings us to me mistreating Google’s AI. I asked where is prayer “Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammāsaṃbuddhassa” from? and every time I ask it no matter what words I use it says “from the Pali.” I try to explain to it that it is in Pali and doesn’t come from Pali but at that point the poor AI becomes terribly confused. :crazy_face:

Even if you are not as quick as Google, you probably knew the answer to my question way back at the beginning of my question. Where is this prayer from/in/derived?

Thank you.

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Did you try doing a search on SC?

https://suttacentral.net/search?query=Namo%20tassa%20bhagavato%20arahato%20samm%C4%81sa%E1%B9%83buddhassa

Or do you mean something else?

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The way I understood the question was ‘what is the origin of this commonly used phrase?’

Is it a pre-buddhist cultural tradition to pay homage in this way?
Was it formulated as part of the collation of the Pali cannon?

Or at least those are the interesting questions that this opened up for me.
Answers; I have none.

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Why don’t you try AN 2.37 Samacittavagga and read/hear Brahmin Ārāmadaṇḍa recite ‘Namo tassa bhagavato arahato sammāsaṃbuddhassa’

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How could it be pre-Buddhist when it is referring to the Buddha?

Also, it’s not really a prayer, is it? It’s words of praise to the Buddha.

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What I meant was; is paying respect in this way to a religious teacher a pre-Buddhist thing?

Would other contemporary teachers have had similar verses of respect?

Agree, it’s not a prayer.

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Hmm. Having long oral transmission from the time of the previous Buddha? (we even have been informed about his name and about anouther couple of whereabouts…)

Well, this is not really a serious question of mine. But I think we should never forget, that we're diving in a system of teachings which comprises far longer historical frame, and our answers generally should fit such a frame.
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Well, the theory is that one Buddha doesn’t arise until everything about the previous Buddha has been forgotten. And what we know about previous Buddhas comes from teachings of our current Buddha.

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Yes. What is its origin.
: )

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The AI is not confused; it is a machine. All the AI does is output a stream of data that is meaningless to it, which is probabilistically responsive to the stream of data that you gave it, which is also meaningless to it. The purpose of an AI is to generate a stream of data that creates the hallucination in human beings that it is a meaningful.

I understand that you don’t really think the AI is “confused”, but i would invite you to reflect on what happens when we normalize anthropomorphizing language for machines. Especially when those machines are built on plagiarized data, using the energy of entire cities, and under the control of literal nazis.

The world has more than enough delusion in it. We do not need machines that manufacture more delusion on an industrial scale.

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I struggled to unlearn the compulsion to treat cpu bots as sentient with my Backgammon game Backgammon pro from the AI Factory. They had to issue a report demonstrating thei Random Number Generator was honest. Moreover, cpu apps do sometimes make users suspect they are frontends for human agents.

I know there is no atonomy beyond the choice trees scripted into a program. Be well. And thank you for your gift of access to the Dhamma. :slightly_smiling_face:

METTA tommorrow and on and on…

A Simple Good Wish
(a response to a prayer by Ayyā Khemā)

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May we all be free from hatefulness.
May all beings be free from harm.
Free of disease and a troubled mind,
may we go in Peace and Calm.

Cottage Grove Oregon
07/13/2024 11:58 AM
LeoCGOR

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Ayyā Khemā’s original prayer: I FOUND IT !

May (I/you/we/) all beings be free from Enmity.
May All beings be free from hurtfulness.
May all beings be free from troubles of mind & body.
May all beings be able to protect their happiness.