Why homeless people and beggars can't live like a monk?

[Mat]

@Coemgenu

Look at that X over there. They live wretched lives. They are bound & born into vice. Look at us. We have more prosperity. Clearly we are the people of higher capacity who have nourished good actions in the past to get us here. Don’t give money to them, they probably did Y terrible thing in past lives, they are demonstrably bad people as demonstrated by their wretchedness in this life.”

Really? Has anyone actually said this?

With metta

[Coemgenu]

@Mat

Really? Has anyone actually said this?

I’ll PM you as not to badmouth other forums.

It should be noted I was not accusing @SarathW1 of holding such a view or approach to karma, but I have heard such things argued, and felt they had a relation to the OP, the intersection of perceived-as-having-bad-karma & perceived-as-having-good-karma. If anything, the opposite view is being hinted at here IMO, that people who suffer are wiser for it, which can be true, but isn’t always.

[SarathW1]

“Master Gotama, both you and I are beggars. What, then, is the difference between us?”

“You don’t become a beggar
just by begging from others.
Someone who has accepted domestic responsibilities
has not yet become a mendicant.
But one living a spiritual life
who has shunned both good and bad,
having considered, they live in this world:
that’s who’s called a mendicant.”
SuttaCentral

[SC1100]

Because they are not monk and you mix between a monk and a beggar. The same thing as why do monks can’t live like an arahant?
Buddha said if one is poor but is not living a holy life his life is miserable.