I am replying to what has been posted on this topic.
The Suttas quotes are not shooting in the dark. Not only have the Suttas refuted Hillside but the difference between Hillside & Buddhadasa seem to have been clearly established.
I think this topic was summed up by the quotes below:
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The whole argument seems to be a real stretch, I’ve never heard these ideas before but I’m wondering whether there’s a translation problem.
I think this topic here How to understand SN 48.42? is related to this topic about Hillside.