This is a recent dhamma session I conducted-
enjoy! Delusion avijja.pdf (1012.5 KB)
with metta
Do you really understand what you wrote there?
Very nice!
I think so
I like the âVipassana Nanaâ chart because I am a chartist, not a fundamentalist. (Investing in share market terminology)
To further understand this chart please read below link.
How the vipassana naana, map on to the visuddhimagga: http://enlight.lib.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-AN/an141147.pdf
I left a slide out as I couldnât convert it fully to a pdf:
(only the aayathana in the aayathanaâŠ)
I also suggested poking the corner of the eye with a finger- the image then bends inwards- this shows we are not âin a 3 dimensional worldâ but seeing the results of the process of seeing.
Yeah, it is amazing how much we take for granted the six basis.
The link below has a cool anatomical explanation of what is behind the visual distortions caused by poking/pression the eyeballs:
I find this analysis quite helpful - though it struck me that stages 6 and 7 highlight the need for some degree of metta.
Visuddhimagga
Buddhagosaâs Visuddhimagga (Path of purification) (ca. 430 CE), while seemingly influenced by the Vimuttimagga, divides the insight knowledges further into sixteen stages:[4]
Agree.
Perhaps 6,7 and 8, I would say.
It appears the practioner is in a cross road at this stage. Perhapswithout Metta the practioner may have some tendancy to end his life.
This is the time people tend to give up. Perhaps need a good teacher at this stage.
What I am still trying to comprehend is the illusion of the mind.
It is easy to understand how mind create those pectures in the mind.
What we experience is the pre conditioned ideas of the mind.
How do you apply this to re-birth?
Does the deluded mind create a mirror immage of the same mind?
How do you apply this to re-birth?
Well at one point you may be aware of your death-bed and the next maybe floating (antarabhava) and after that, if awareness is possible, as a foetus or more likely a baby in the womb.
âillusion in mindâ
Is that Vinnana or Namarupa?
I imagine the picture of âMatâ
Mat is teaching Dhamma.
Who is teacing who is learning?
Is Matt and I an illusion in my mind or an illusion in Matâs mind?
I prefer you stay with the English meaning of âillusion in the mindâ, as it is meant for people without the need for further complicated dhamma. Having said that, if you were analysing it after seeing the presentation, the illusion of the animals manifest at sanna level, and vanish with concentration.
Easier to explain using physics - at one level we both exist - at another level we are just mostly empty atoms, and âpeopleâ donât exist.
Yes, that is where good jhana or samadhi is crucial, as it serves a âholdingâ function to the more âdeconstructiveâ function of vipassana mechanisms. People with mental health issues need to have sorted things out before getting in into these deep waters or in any case everyone should be doing this ideally in a retreat setting with an teacher experienced with dealing with vipassana progress (repulsion, dispassion, cessation as is more commonly noted in the EBTs).
Indeed, and I think itâs also worth noting that the 7 factors of enlightenment include energy, joy and tranquillity.
I also find it useful to remember that Nibbana is described as the âescapeâ from samsara, or more prosaically, that stillness is an âescapeâ from the movement of mind and senses.
True. It is also said that in the âknowledge of arising and passing away stageâ energy, joy and tranquillity can arise ie before nibbida (although these are âcorruptions of insightâ I think they are actually arising due to samadhi arising).