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It is not such a bad thing to be a woman


#1

It appears men are the main culprits of all bad things (Mara). I think this is very possible considering the fact that the instigators of most of the world wars are men.

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They understand: ‘It’s impossible for a woman to be a perfected one, a fully awakened Buddha. But it is possible for a man to be a perfected one, a fully awakened Buddha.’ They understand: ‘It’s impossible for a woman to be a wheel-turning monarch. But it is possible for a man to be a wheel-turning monarch.’ They understand: ‘It’s impossible for a woman to perform the role of Sakka, Māra, or Brahmā. But it is possible for a man to perform the role of Sakka, Māra, or Brahmā.’


#2

“It is not such a bad thing to be a woman”: Some of us women never thought it was.


#4

Wow thats a really ridiculous thing to say.

And who says its bad to be a woman?


#5

If women can’t be the Mara, isn’t that means men are the Mara?
For instance if we have only women in this world (hypothtically) there is no Mara so we do not need Buddha?


#6

Maybe his dhamma is more important than his genitalia?


#7

Bhikkhu Anālayo wrote an article on this topic, comparing MN 115 of the Pali canon with it’s Madhyama-āgama parallel (and other parallels) in which the relevant passage on women’s inabilities is lacking:
https://samita.be/en/2017/02/24/can-a-woman-become-a-buddha/

Here is the conclusion he comes up with:
“In sum, since an accidental loss or an intentional omission of an exposition on the inabilities of women in the Madhyama-āgama discourse seems improbable, the most straightforward conclusion would be that the theme of women’s inability is a later addition to the exposition on impossibilities in the different versions of the Discourse on Many Elements. Thus in this respect the Madhyama-āgama version quite probably testifies to an early stage, when the theme of what women cannot achieve had not yet become part of the discourse.”


#8

I think ancient religious texts need to be understood in their historical and cultural context.


#9

Do you assume that everyone on this forum accepts that passage you quoted as literal truth?


#10

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