In another post…
This seems rather strange to me? How can one break (and indeed be defeated by) a precept when one hasn’t taken up the precept up in the first place?
Maybe I have the wrong understanding of the term ‘pārājika’? Does it’s scope cover - all beings, all human being, all buddhists, all ordained buddhists, something else? Or maybe it refers to different scopes in different applications? I guess there’s all sorts of humans that various (monastic) sanghas don’t want to join their sangha, but can these beings really be said to have committed a ‘pārājika’?
Further, these rules concerning the non-ordination (or expulsion) of certain beings who have commited transgressions in the past (when taken with the idea that it is impossible for an arahant to maintain a laypersons life) would also seem to put a limit on the degree of ‘letting go’ that certain humans can exercise, which appears to go against the thrust of the EBT’s in general. In short, it seems really strange that Angulimala manages to get ordained, but someone who impersonated a bhikkhu (prior to attempting to become a bhikkhu) can’t?
To what extent should I maintain confidence that these (de facto or virtual pārājika) were from the Buddha I am wondering? And to what extent are they useful now?