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On the 4 noble truths in 3 perspectives & 12 respects

In the Dhammacakkappavattana-sutta (SN56.11) the Buddha states the following:

‘This is the noble truth of suffering.’ Such was the vision, knowledge, wisdom, realization, and light that arose in me regarding teachings not learned before from another. ‘This noble truth of suffering should be completely understood.’ Such was the vision that arose in me … ‘This noble truth of suffering has been completely understood.’ Such was the vision that arose in me … SuttaCentral

According to the EBTs can this statement be understood as an expression of the degrees of enlightenment?

  1. Sotapanna: ‘This is the noble truth of suffering.’ Such was the vision, knowledge, wisdom, realization, and light that arose in me

  2. Sakadagami > Anagami: ‘This noble truth of suffering should be completely understood.’

  3. Arahant: ‘This noble truth of suffering has been completely understood.’

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No that’s not correct:

". But as soon as this—my three-round, twelve permutation knowledge & vision concerning these four noble truths as they have come to be—was truly pure, then I did claim to have directly
awakened to the right self-awakening unexcelled in the cosmos.… " SN 56.11

“The three rounds in this knowledge and vision correspond to the three levels
of knowledge for each of the noble truths: knowing the truth, knowing the duty
appropriate to the truth, and knowing that the duty has been completed. The
twelve permutations come from applying these three levels to all four of the
truths (3 x 4 = 12). When this knowledge and vision is completely pure, it yields
release and the knowledge and vision of release.”—Thanissaro

The duties appropriate to the truths:

‘This is the noble truth of stress’… ‘This noble truth of stress is to be
comprehended’ … ‘This noble truth of stress has been comprehended.’ …
“‘This is the noble truth of the origination of stress’ … ‘This noble truth of
the origination of stress is to be abandoned’ … ‘This noble truth of the
origination of stress has been abandoned.’ …
“‘This is the noble truth of the cessation of stress’ … ‘This noble truth of
the cessation of stress is to be directly experienced’ … ‘This noble truth of
the cessation of stress has been directly experienced.’ …
“‘This is the noble truth of the way of practice leading to the cessation of
stress’ … ‘This noble truth of the way of practice leading to the cessation
of stress is to be developed’ … ‘This noble truth of the way of practice
leading to the cessation of stress has been developed.’"

Relating these duties to the fourth foundation of mindfulness:

“Under the topic of the fourth frame of reference, DN 22 lists five sets of
categories to keep in mind: the five hindrances, the five clinging-aggregates, the
sixfold sense media, the seven factors for awakening, and the four noble truths.
As we have already noted, the four noble truths and their duties form the
overarching framework for understanding how right mindfulness should
function. The remaining sets of categories fall under these truths and the duties
appropriate to them. The hindrances, as a cause of stress, are to be abandoned.
The clinging-aggregates, as the primary example of the truth of stress, are to be
comprehended to the point of dispassion. As for the sixfold sense-media, the
discussion in DN 22 focuses on the fetters that arise in dependence on these
media—fetters that as a cause of stress should be abandoned. The seven factors
for awakening, as aspects of the path, are to be developed.”

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Do you know if Thanissaro substantiates his statement with quotes etc.?

Thank-you! :pray:

I don’t remember exact sutta. But some see the Origin Only. Buddha said the Path is gradually.

“This world, Kaccana, for the most part depends upon a duality—upon the notion of existence and the notion of nonexistence. But for one who sees the origin of the world as it really is with correct wisdom, there is no notion of nonexistence in regard to the world. And for one who sees the cessation of the world as it really is with correct wisdom, there is no notion of existence in regard to the world.

Even nonexistent of self becomes a attachment in some. It supposed to be just used as a boat.