Pandaka novice ordination

[UpasakaMalavaro]

Can a pandaka be a novice?

[Ratana]

I don’t think they can be ordained

[Ficus]

@Ratana

I don’t think they can be ordained

Please offer a valid reason, or reference for your statement.

[Ratana]

Pandaka ordaining, vinaya

It is found in the first Khandhaka, the Mahakkhandhaka, the section on the ordination procedure. Here is the relevant passage (my translation): Eunuchs At one time a certain eunuch had gone forth as a monk. He approached the young monks and said, “Venerables, come and have sex with me.” The monks dismissed him, “Go away, eunuch. Who needs you?” He went to the big and fat novices, said the same thing, and got the same response. He then went to the elephant keepers and horse keepers, and once …

[UpasakaMalavaro]

There it is said:" full ordination".
Is samanera full ordination?