Not at all. They are part of bhava, human disposition. But mind is not the same as bhava. The nature of mind is beyond any bhava. A purified mind cannot be called human anymore. But arahants know that mind has never been human.
We can try to make those debates more practical and less doctrinal. Is it really true that we can only see and know formations arising and ceasing in our mind or life? Is there really nothing stable, constant? Is there only this aspect of arising and ceasing? And not that aspect of not arising and ceasing?
I do not think it is really a violation when i can say that i know greed, hate, conceit can be seen arising.
And also not that emptiness is not seen arising and ceasing.
You mean practise/ personal experience Philosophy as far as I know is part and parcel of how doctrines is to be discussed when not referring to personal experiences.