Dear Bhantes, dear all,
I also wanted to share a question here regarding AN 6.63 - Nibbhedika. The discourse states the following:
“Contact is the cause of sensuality.” (why not perception or ignorance?)
“Contact is the cause of feeling.”
“Contact is the cause of perception.” (why not feeling?)
“Ignorance is the cause of defilements.”
“Contact is the cause of kamma.” (why not greed, aversion and ignorance?)
“Craving is the cause of suffering.”
I wonder that so much emphasis is given here to “contact” as the cause of so many things. As long as one has a body (even if this should be a ‘mental’ one), contact is unavoidable. The coming together of sense consciousness and the sense and a sense object, this is called contact. Hence, contact is only avoided, if rebirth is ended. I guess this presentation is deliberately designed, so that the eightfold noble path can be given as the cause for the cessation of all these things, because the eightfold noble path leads to the end of rebirth… but then again, why not state rebirth then as the cause for these things (or could this be geared towards renunciation and sense restraint - but even if one is sitting in deep meditation the mind consciousness still is in contact with the meditation object…)
- Can one really say that contact is the cause of kamma? An Arahant also experiences contact, but he does not make new kamma (as we previously discussed). I would have said that greed, hatred and deslusion are the causes for kamma, or I would have mentioned wrong view (which is delusion).
- Also in terms of sensual desire, is not the unskillfull perception of beauty (where there really is none) a reason for sensual desire, or the wrong view that sensual desire is fullfilling?
- Or in the case of perception, is not feeling the cause for perception? Usually the sequence is -
form + sense + sense consciousness -> feeling -> percetion -> mental state (sankhara) - right?
Does anyone have a suggestion, why the presentation is done in the way it is found here - stressing contact so much? Also, can one really say that contact is the ‘ultimate’ cause of kamma? Why was contact chosen as a cause for kamma in this discourse?
Many thanks and with much mettaa,