Bhante @Sujato, I’ve found another subtle difference in l vs ḷ. Aditi does manage to say them differently but you’ll notice that the difference spills out into the syllables that follow the ḷ or l
Here are Nāḷanda and Nālanda:
Apparently these are used interchangeably as the name of a place. The first spelling is used 32 times. The second spelling is used once in SN47.12.
I have not made any changes to Aditi’s pronunciation of these two, so no action will be taken unless folks have concerns.
On a separate note, the planned work on v0.9.2 is completed as noted in the Release Plan. I’ll be running some other tests today, but we should be able to release v0.9.2 tomorrow.
As I have understood from Bhante Sujato, the underdot doesn’t matter much for rightly pronouncing the Pali, and he even suggested to treat it as if not existing, should there be any problems to represent it properly. But to me the difference is clearly audible.
Yes, the underdot ḷ is not hugely critical, and as you have noticed, it frequently varies in the Pali itself, eg. pāḷi vs. pāli, cūla vs. cūḷa, etc. But I think the way it is handled now is fine.
I had a look at the app and find it very nice and I enjoyed listening to some of the suttas. Well done! I preferred Raveena because it feels much closer to actual spoken language but I guess that depends on what you are using the app for.
You will all no doubt forgive me for not reading through 158 posts here so some of this might already have been reported. I just have some feedback on the css side because I’ve been looking at this on my LG LS675 with Android 5.1.1. and there are a few bugs:
The search bar disappears on the left side of the screen so I cannot actually see the first part of the search term I’m typing.
Then the settings button has disappeared on the right side and I have to scroll to the right to see it.
This is actually the same on my mobile phone (Android 8.0.0). Earlier it has been otherwise, and at some point this has changed (don’t remember when that was). For some reason I completely forgot to report it here… so thanks for bringing it up!
The settings button is visible on my phone (and there’s nothing to scroll from left to right).
Another issue I have with my mobile phone: I can’t just sit (or walk) and listen to a sutta without looking at the screen all the time. When (after 2 minutes, as I have set it) of not pressing any button the schreen goes into energy saving mode and turns dark the audio also stops playing. So I have to constantly watch the screen and stop it from turning dark (or else I’d have to change my energy settings).
Thank you for a novel solution!
I’ve added it to the SuttaCentral Voice Wiki Offline Listening page.
What has your experience been of the combined Pali/English recitation of suttas segment by segment? Do you prefer English only or use the combined Pali/English?
I must admit that I prefer just listening to the English. On the combined Pali/English the english is rather slow. For the pali that is good, but for the English I would prefer something a bit quicker. It is probably a very good tool for learning pali!
Absolutely. Raveena is available for Pali/English. The Pali voice is actually another speaker, Aditi. Aditi has full Hindi phonemes, even more than Raveena.
Looking everywhere, I can’t find where to turn that off in my phone. And the problem is not only when listening to a sutta on the website, but the same for a MP3 file. So downloading doesn’t help in this case. (For walking I can copy it on my MP3 player.)
Have added a few more bugs & mispronunciations to the Release Plan.
I’m still wondering about another point: When playing English only, might it be an idea to insert a little pause before each new section number? Sometimes the number just follows the last sentence of the last section so immediately that it is a bit confusing. (Of course, when playing Pali / English which I mostly do this is no issue.)
Thank you!
