I am curious about the existing options to ordain in SL but doing so in run-off-the-mill monasteries unaffiliated with the lineageas like galduwa/mahamevnawa.
In regards to this i want to ask what to expect in general and specifically about the process of obtaining the recommendations.
I assume that one can’t expect the monks to teach in english, to uphold vinaya or be very learned, but i don’t really care about other people’s discipline & views as i would want to watch over my own training.
In general i want to know more about these options because i assume there are options maybe worth considering.
Also if anybody is planning ordination in SL, do contact me in pm if want to discuss it.
I think you are insinuating that i might be wanting to ordain for the wrong reasons. I don’t want to speak in detail about my reasons for wanting to pursue this but i do have my reasons.
More like helpful advice as a person who got into robes not too long ago, I see the great benefit of the community. Young monks are supposed to learn these before independence (ideally within 5 years)
Can give dhamma talks to monks.
Memorize 32000 syllables of the dhamma.
Know the pātimokkha for Bhikkhu and Bhikkhuni.
Know how to give talks/chants etc at auspicious occasions, inauspicious occations, donation occations. (If I remember correctly)
Can judge if a Vinaya kamma is done correctly.
Know the meditation path all the way to nibbāna.
At least the vinaya part is really needing a community to learn from.
Then after the 5 vassas, monks can become hermit. Usually in suttas it says after making the profession as a monk, they asked a meditation object from Buddha and gone into seclusion, that’s after the first 5 years.
Just general advice. Not wanting to imply anything on your intentions. Best is to go for a community that can guide oneself on how to become a monk.
I don’t know how many syllables i’ve memorized but more or less the entire suttapitaka is in my head. It’s not something I actively study anymore.
I chant pali sutta just fine.
Well this is easy enough to test. Just make minor changes to the origin stories and ask a person to make a judgement as he sees fit before comparing to vinaya
Unless the monk would want to stay alone in the forest, ghen he would go alone without nissaya before the 5 year period ended.
If i had even a suspicion that there is a preceptor like this then i would be there already.
I assume that there is nobody like this that i know of.
I don’t care about it because i am not a suckling calf in this training and can do my own thing.
The dhamma that i’ve learned is plenty for me and i want to be a monk because i want to give up my wealth and pursue the training wholeheartedly. Being a monk would supposedly allow me to train more so in line with the texts and it would be a more radical commitment to discipline.
The no lineage option appeals to me because i imagine that nobody would care about what i do lest i was to cause trouble.
If it doesn’t work out then it’s not a big deal for me but i want to give it a shot.
