Suicide cases in Ebts, and considered arahant . And mahasamadhi

[Viveka]

Greetings Hwbao

This subject has been discussed before - (though without the focus on comparing it to hinduism).

There is an in depth discussion about the 2 suttas you quote, and the issues surrounding it, to be found here.

Suicide Cases in the Suttas and the "authenticity"(early/late etc) of the texts

Suicide can be a thorny topic for monastics and it’s been one that has come up in questions to me lately. Obviously suicide is harming a being(yourself) and therefore to be avoided if at all possible, but it’s hard to not come across as harsh saying that in a case where compassion is needed and where for many people there is a great divide in the view between murder and suicide. This especially becomes thorny when people know of the one or two cases where monks have killed themselves in the ca…