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[anon45292575]

Dhamma Greetings to whom it may concern,

Cant get offline to work; get network fail error.

Have tried on two computers. The main machine testing on is

• windows 10, Version 10.0.19044 Build 19044
• Browser 1 Firefox Developer 110.0b9 (64-bit)
• Browser 2 Chrome Version 109.0.5414.120 (Official Build) (64-bit

Load 50 or 80 percent or more than fails. Same on refresh cache. If I can post a log or find a way to work out what the problem is that would be good.

Metta in Dhamma

a Quiet Bhikkhu

[anon45292575]

Also it is windows laptop not mobile. Note this has been an ongoing issue I have failed on an old andriod, on a computer and now this laptop, over three months on different internet connections and locations, on different browsers.
I have had not once succeeded in this time. And it is kind of cumbersome to try as takes a long time to download and clear cache.
Looking forward to find out what this issue is.
Blessings in the Buddha-Dhamma,
Metta and Peace.

[anon45292575]

Dhamma Greetings,
Is there a developer whom can be contacted about this? I am still getting Network Error. Is any one else experiencing this? I have tried multiple computers, browsers connections and devices/ nothing is working to get offline working.

Many Thanks

[sabbamitta]

@anon45292575

Is any one else experiencing this?

I’ve never got the offline function to work. I haven’t tried for a while though.

[anon45292575]

Bhante @sujato the thread has been updated with all the notes I could find, maybe the developers can find the problem now.
With Metta,
Quiet Dhamma

[anon45292575]

[anon45292575]

• https://suttacentral.net/api/suttaplex/sa301-400?language=en
• https://suttacentral.net/api/suttaplex/sa101-200?language=en
• …sa701-800?language=en
• …suttaplex/sa801-900?language=en (limited as a new user for posting)

Errors seem to be in 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js related to the above

[anon45292575]

[anon45292575]

Ok I mananged to find the log

Bhante @sujato (Dhamma Greetings Bhante) Is there a developer that could look at this? Or any other logs that are needed I am happy to debug. I have been trying for months now, havn’t got it working.

Many thanks.
Quite Dhamma.

8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1          GET https://suttacentral.net/api/suttaplex/sa301-400?language=en 500
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
n @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
defer @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
_cacheAllItems @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.then (async)
makeOffline @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
handleEvent @ main.eabf9bae4b8f43ea9530.js:203
c @ rocket-loader.min.js:1
8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1 Error
    at _handleErrors (8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1:7057)
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.catch (async)
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
n @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
defer @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
_cacheAllItems @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.then (async)
makeOffline @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
handleEvent @ main.eabf9bae4b8f43ea9530.js:203
c @ rocket-loader.min.js:1
8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1          GET https://suttacentral.net/api/suttaplex/sa101-200?language=en 500
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
n @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
defer @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
_cacheAllItems @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.then (async)
makeOffline @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
handleEvent @ main.eabf9bae4b8f43ea9530.js:203
c @ rocket-loader.min.js:1
8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1 Error
    at _handleErrors (8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1:7057)
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.catch (async)
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
n @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
defer @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
_cacheAllItems @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.then (async)
makeOffline @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
handleEvent @ main.eabf9bae4b8f43ea9530.js:203
c @ rocket-loader.min.js:1
8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1          GET https://suttacentral.net/api/suttaplex/sa701-800?language=en 500
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
n @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
defer @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
_cacheAllItems @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.then (async)
makeOffline @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
handleEvent @ main.eabf9bae4b8f43ea9530.js:203
c @ rocket-loader.min.js:1
8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1 Error
    at _handleErrors (8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1:7057)
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.catch (async)
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
n @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
defer @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
_cacheAllItems @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.then (async)
makeOffline @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
handleEvent @ main.eabf9bae4b8f43ea9530.js:203
c @ rocket-loader.min.js:1
8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1          GET https://suttacentral.net/api/suttaplex/sa801-900?language=en 500
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
n @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
defer @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
_cacheAllItems @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.then (async)
makeOffline @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
handleEvent @ main.eabf9bae4b8f43ea9530.js:203
c @ rocket-loader.min.js:1
8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1 Error
    at _handleErrors (8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1:7057)
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.catch (async)
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
n @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
defer @ 3309.bf17e7b05ccde1ac2edc.js:27
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
_cacheAllItems @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
(anonymous) @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
Promise.then (async)
makeOffline @ 8238.f7c5c20c1c7dde5e7f37.js:1
handleEvent @ main.eabf9bae4b8f43ea9530.js:203
c @ rocket-loader.min.js:1

[Sunyo]

@anon45292575

Is any one else experiencing this?

Hi Bhante,

It never worked for me either, and I tried it every other year since the feature was first introduced. It has always been an experimental feature, I belief. Nobody seems to know why it works for some but not others. (If you do ever get it to work, please give me nudge.)

The legacy version has almost everything I need, though, and it works fine offline. (download here) Use it together with epubs of the translations, and you got almost all the content of the website offline, even though in a different format.

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Let me add here also as an official bug report that installing the offline version makes the site significantly slower, in Firefox on Windows 10, even if the offline function doesn’t work.

See here. Snowbird had a similar problem. Clearing the cache fixed it for both of us.

[anon45292575]

Appreciated Ven @Sunyo , hopefully this bug can get sorted.

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Thank-you for the offline information, I didn’t realize it was still accessible. The main reason I like the offline app is the line by line pali /english though, for those of us who arn’t so good in this area.

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With Metta

[sabbamitta]

@anon45292575

The main reason I like the offline app is the line by line pali /english though, for those of us who arn’t so good in this area.

But you can also see the bilingual presentation online, can’t you?

Click on “views” at the top right, then select “siede by side” or “line by line” in the second column.

[anon45292575]

Thanks for that, I have used that. My only really purpose for the site, is if the offline feature would work, I prefer to not have the internet for extended periods, so the offline feature as it worked at the start of the site, would be great.

Just seems to be not many people can get it working, and its meant to be a major feature of the site.

I have saved out a few suttas, with line by line for translation, but would be useful to have offline feature working, so the site can be used in an environment with no internet.

Many thanks anyhow.

[sujato]

@Sunyo

The legacy version has almost everything I need, though, and it works fine offline

Oh god, please no, it should have been sunsetted long ago. It’s full of errors and old data.

@Sunyo

in Firefox on Windows 10

doing a niche thing on a niche system. Hate to say it, but I strongly recommend Chrome for PWAs.

See my comment here:

Offline site not working

Y’all are not going to like this, but this feature has been there for many years now, and whenever I test it, it works just fine. It just did it again on a new machine, and yep there it is. Computers are complicated, and I’m sorry it doesn’t work for you. In my experience, the problems are likely: network corrupted cache (make sure to completely erase if you have a problem before trying again) configuration (some setting on your computer or browser) browser plugins lack of local storage space…

Meanwhile you can try:

GitHub - olastor/sc-portable

See discussion here:

Cool hacker stuff to do with SuttaCentral? redbean!

Dear Bhante, thank you for sharing this reference. I read the post and am also quite amazed by the whole Cosmopolitan Libc library which I did not know before. Unfortunately, the normal the redbean binary from the website gives me a segmentation fault (Fedora Linux), but it works well when building it locally. I gave it a shot, uploaded the code at Sebastian K / Portable SC · GitLab and the latest build can be downloaded here (~ 117MB, all english sutta and root texts). I tested this version …

But it seems to be still a work in progress.

[Khemarato.bhikkhu]

@sujato

on a niche system

Bhante, I believe Bhikkhu Sunyo meant the most widely used desktop operating system in the world, installed on 76×76=58% of desktop computers and which will be supported by Microsoft until October 2025. I don’t think he meant the 2016 Windows Phone OS of the same name (Did you Bhante @Sunyo ?)

[Sunyo]

@sujato

Hate to say it, but I strongly recommend Chrome for PWAs.

I hate to say it too, bhante, but I did try Chrome and a fresh install of Brave (Chromium), and it didn’t work any better. (I’m not sure if it also slowed down the site as well. I didn’t test that.)

I’m not sure how Firefox and Windows 10 would be niche. Considering that Chrome also didn’t work, I think it’s not the browser that’s the problem. And Windows 10, as Khemarato said, isn’t exactly rare. (You’re right @Khemarato.bhikkhu, it’s the desktop version.)

I tried downloading it on a different network, tried clearing cache, tried different browsers with fresh installs. Nothing works. I tried it on Chrome for Android as well, and that didn’t work either.

@sujato

Meanwhile you can try:

Cool, but looks more trouble than it’s worth. Considering the legacy edition does do very well what I personally need, and that I’m geeky but not that geeky.

I wouldn’t mind if this redbean thing was the only way to get it to work. The bottom line is, though, that the offline function clearly doesn’t work for a great percentage of people. But it is presented, as Ven Buddho said, as a major feature of the site.

[Snowbird]

I mentioned this a while back and I think you solved it elsewhere:

The font you use has an imperceptible pixel or two below base-line on some characters that causes underlines to be broken. This is on FireFox, which I know you don’t always care about supporting. But I thought I would mention it.

[Snowbird]

It looks like the individual edition pages don’t have proper page titles?

[sabbamitta]

In the “site” essays, Sutta references are generally links, but there is no indication for the reader to know this:

until they hover with their mouse over one of them:

[Pasanna]

I was reading MN109 and opened a new tab to read DN15
I typed https://suttacentral.net/en/dn15 into the address bar and it loaded up the content for MN109 Obviously I typed the address wrong, but I would have rather an error than a randomish sutta.