The path is born in them---what does it mean?

There are two Suttas that have this phrase, maggo sañjāyati, “the path is born in them”, AN 5.57 and AN 4.170. In one case it’s “as they do so, the path is born in them”, in the other it’s “when they review this subject often, the path is born in them”. In both cases the sentence is followed by “they cultivate, develop, and make much of it”.

I am wondering if these passages could be the place where the later ideas of “reaching the path”, and then the “momentary path”, originated from? The Sutta passages clearly say that after that path has been born, what follows is a period of practice and development. It’s not described as a momentary path that is immediately followed by a fruit.

But what does it mean that a path is born in a person? I am wondering if this somewhat mysterious passage could have led to these equally mysterious explanations of a momentary path and fruit.


Through reflection on those subjects, the path - that the noble disciple is on - becomes productive, they cultivate, develop, and make much of it.

Those reflections serve as nutriment for the noble ones, helping them progress on the path and ultimately reach its culmination.

Rather than momentariness, it’s much more profitable to focus on penetrating the illusion of continuity in respect to impermanence. This is the long term change perceived in objects which is imperceptible in the immediate, but which can be imposed on it by constant reflection, and which is the true condition of reality. There are exercises for achieving this in the Vism., such as observing the changes in a growing leaf from inception to decline and death.

When the practitioner becomes interested in momentariness or penetrating the illusion of continuity it means they are engaging with the ‘development’ stage of the path as contrasted with the establishment phase, and which is described in the fourth tetrad of Anapanasati and the fourth foundation of mindfulness:

"This is called the frames of reference.

“And what is the development of the frames of reference? There is the case where a monk remains focused on the phenomenon of origination with regard to the body, remains focused on the phenomenon of passing away with regard to the body, remains focused on the phenomenon of origination & passing away with regard to the body — ardent, alert, & mindful — putting aside greed & distress with reference to the world.”

—Samyutta Nikaya 47.40

“When he/she often reflects on this, the [factors of the] path take birth. He/she sticks with that path, develops it, cultivates it. As he/she sticks with that path, develops it and cultivates it, the fetters are abandoned, the obsessions destroyed.”

—Anguttara Nikaya 5.57

“The (factors of the) path take birth” means the establishment phase. It entails familiarization with the individual factors rather than their working together as a functioning dynamic.

This is a great question that you’ve asked sabbamitta :slight_smile:

I’ve always understood this to mean stream-entry but I’m not so sure now that you’ve asked. I’m looking forward to the responses you get :anjal:

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That is correct. Magga immediately following phala is not reflected in the EBTs. There is a sutta where a person is said to give dana to only arahantha magga people. If they only lasted a millisecond this would be impossible.

I think it refers to the fruition moment. Meditation masters look for their markers in their students.

Yes, it could.
with metta

This is not so much an entry to the discussion regarding 'momentary path and fruit', rather just adding some backdrop scenery...

I found this yesterday (top half of page) while looking for something else (bottom half)…

I thought it was ironic to have them (by chance) on the same page, as Bahiya appears to have been all about get 'er done, today’s the day, no time to waste, won’t take “no, no, no” for an answer!


Whatever the work, enthusiasm first requires knowledge.

For me this is expressing, acquisition of knowledge. That is to say the four Noble Truths. (My personal view on the nature of this knowledge, I don’t understand how to express in english)

In short ‘stream entry’.

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Coming back to this topic again … I actually also had always thought stream entry is what it could most likely mean, although it’s a curious phrase that only appears in these two passages. But now I noticed this can’t be the case:

AN5.57:7.1-5: Then that noble disciple reflects: ‘It’s not just me who is liable to grow old, not being exempt from old age. For all sentient beings grow old according to their nature, as long as they come and go, pass away and are reborn.’ When they review this subject often, the path is born in them. They cultivate, develop, and make much of it. By doing so, they give up the fetters and eliminate the underlying tendencies.

The passage with the path being born is immediately preceded by the sentence “then that noble disciple reflects”. A “noble disciple” is normally a term for someone who has entered the stream, so it can’t mean that a stream entrer, by reflecting in this way, enters the stream. :thinking:

It remains a mystery …

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My interpretation (let’s take an example statement from AN4.170 for this purpose):

Tassa samathapubbaṅgamaṁ vipassanaṁ bhāvayato maggo sañjāyati

In the above sentence samathapubbaṅgamaṁ & vipassanaṁ can be ignored as they dont appear to impact the meaning of the rest.

Tassa and bhāvayato are in genitive or dative - the latter is from the present participle of bhāvayati and is evidently the adjective of tassa.

There being no locative here, I am not sure we can translate that the magga is born “in” them. Therefore I consider a dative of purpose appropriate here - the magga is therefore born for them (in other words, they successfully find the āryāṣṭāṅgamārga for the first time). The genitive also yields pretty much the same sense.

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