Thanks. I was over looking this bit:
Nāma is thought about and explained differently in the commentaries and abhidhamma than it is in the suttas.
I believe Ven. Sujāto has created a list of several such instances.
SN1.61 is the source of the poem quoted above, the next poem says;
“What leads the world on? “
Kenassu nīyati loko,
What drags it around?
kenassu parikassati;
What is the one thing
Kissassu ekadhammassa,
that has everything under its sway?”
sabbeva vasamanvagū”ti.“The mind leads the world on.
“Cittena nīyati loko,
The mind drags it around.
cittena parikassati;
Mind is the one thing
Cittassa ekadhammassa,
that has everything under its sway.”
sabbeva vasamanvagū”ti.
neither of these poems, or any of the other poems in this section of the Samyutta are repeated anywhere else in the canon, so I would just caution against taking poetry as definitive with regards to the fundamental philosophy of Buddhism, the poems are often more evocative than definitive, IMO.
To be clear, though, in the Visuddhimagga (XVII.187), nāmarūpa, when applied to dependent origination, does not include consciousness in nāma.
And, of course, Bhante Sujato’s comments here: How Early Buddhism differs from Theravada: a checklist acknowledge that.