Generating examples for use in Voice and other applications with Georg’s script

And … haha! … it is already in the examples!

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Oh dear. Then this means that perhaps I chose to forget it as a disturbing memory. :grimacing: :laughing:

it’s a difficult example, because it appears to be in conflict with rousing energy. And it certainly jars with western goals of being passionate about work.

But when I look at it carefully, I understand that to work for delight is indeed not good because it leads to greater craving. Work for what is needed, not what is desired.

Thanks for Ayya Vimalañani’s video. Now listening…

(a bit later…)
Ah good! Ayya is just now talking about relishing work. She simply points out that relishing work leads to huge temples and tourist attractions. I’m sure she would have more to say, but DN16 is a long sutta and that is only one line in a long sutta.

If we look for “relish work” ourselves, we find the top search result, which adds the following interesting clarification:

AN5.89:2.3: They don’t relish work, talk, sleep, and company. And they review the extent of their mind’s freedom.

From this we might understand that relishing work would be to transgress the extent of the mind’s freedom. And this makes sense to me since every time I have relished work it has gone nowhere and been of no use to anyone.

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Added “mindfulness and situational awareness” to examples after a long discussion with Ven. @Bhikkhupragnapal. Although it returns 30 suttas, it is a core learning for contemporary distracted people who misunderstand what being present means.

Venerable Pragnapal, here is the list of matched suttas for your reference:

mindfulness_and_situational_awareness.pdf (84.3 KB)

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Thank you. I am hesitating to add “Achtsamkeit und Umsicht” because that would most likely return twice as many results, if not more. Bhante sometimes abbreviates “mindfulness and situational awareness” to just “mindfulness and awareness” in verse contexts which the German does not, as the term is already very concise; also, it appears often at the end of longer lists, and in that case the English adds a comma, “mindfulness, and situational awareness” which makes it a different term. German does not have a comma in such a place.

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Yikes! Thanks for explaining the difficulty. I hope there might some combination of German words that would not overwhelm?

The problem we were discussing is that people often misunderstand mindfulness as “sinply pay attention to what you are doing.” That is a good mindset, but also shallow. We should pay attention to the cars around us while we drive. But we also need to be situational aware and know the context in which we drive. We also have to be aware of our destination, timing, weather, etc.

Curiously, only 6 suttas are found for “Satisampajañña”. However, that is translated as “mindfulness and situational awareness”. :see_no_evil:

5.192 an8.81
5.072 an10.61
4.056 an10.62
2.053 an8.9
2.048 sn47.8
1.002 dn2

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Erm. Like is it possible to create something like “Achtsamumsichtkeit” for these 6 suttas?

Or perhaps we could match a phrase “mindfulness and situational awareness” to a search for “Satisampajañña” somehow in the example files… :thinking:

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In the Suttas, mindfulness (sati) mostly refers to meditation practice, whereas situational awareness (sampajañña) is described as being aware of the context and the situation, actually it’s what nowadays is often called “mindfulness in daily life”. A good explanation is for example found in SN 47:35.

Perhaps a good term can be “live mindful and aware” | “achtsam und umsichtig leben” (3 results).

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Wow. So now THAT is also a great example…but it is a list of different suttas :open_mouth:

…uhhh…

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Please no experiments before the 11th …

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:laughing: just thoughts. no action.

How are you doing for Friday?

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I am adding those now.

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I guess the biggest problem will be that one hour will be a bit short …

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Ah. OK. If you need help with a “dry run” let me know.

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Thank you. I think it will be just fine.

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I am still adding “Mangel an Achtsamkeit und Umsicht” which returns part of your list, but not quite as many.

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Ah! That’s an excellent idea. The inclusion of “Mangel” shortens the list and is actually the problem statement. Elegant! :pray:

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The English counterpart does only return 3 Suttas. Now you have the choice between 3 and 30!

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Aha. You read my mind! :laughing:

I choose 30 because the topic is very important. German returns 4 now, hopefully more eventually. Searching for “lack mindful awareness” yields 9 suttas, so that might be what would eventually appear in your searches.

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Oh, I just noticed that there are subtle differences in the explanation of awareness:

SN47.2:3.1: And how is a mendicant aware?
SN47.2:3.2: It’s when a mendicant acts with situational awareness when going out and coming back; when looking ahead and aside; when bending and extending the limbs; when bearing the outer robe, bowl and robes; when eating, drinking, chewing, and tasting; when urinating and defecating; when walking, standing, sitting, sleeping, waking, speaking, and keeping silent.

SN47.35:3.1: And how is a mendicant aware?
SN47.35:3.2: It’s when a mendicant knows feelings as they arise, as they remain, and as they go away.
SN47.35:3.3: They know thoughts as they arise, as they remain, and as they go away.
SN47.35:3.4: They know perceptions as they arise, as they remain, and as they go away.

The first one is about the external situation, the second one about the internal situation.

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Yes! And it is also reflected in the order of liberations. Internal liberation precedes external liberation. Internal mastery precedes external mastery.

DN34:2.1.192: Having physical form, they see visions.
DN34:2.1.193: This is the first liberation.
DN34:2.1.194: Not perceiving physical form internally, someone see visions externally.
DN34:2.1.195: This is the second liberation.

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