John D. Ireland has this:
"The great ocean, bhikkhus, gradually shelves, slopes, and inclines, and there is no sudden precipice.
And this:
"Just as the great ocean gradually shelves, slopes, and inclines, and there is no sudden precipice, so also in this Dhamma and Discipline there is a gradual training, a gradual course, a gradual progression, and there is no sudden penetration to final knowledge.
Thanissaro Bhikkhu however interprets it to have a meaning totally contradictory to that:
The ocean has a gradual shelf, a gradual slope, a gradual inclination, with a sudden drop-off only after a long stretch.
And
Just as the ocean has a gradual shelf, a gradual slope, a gradual inclination, with a sudden drop-off only after a long stretch; in the same way this Dhamma & Vinaya has a gradual training, a gradual performance, a gradual practice, with a penetration to gnosis only after a long stretch.
To me, Thanissaro’s version seems far more aligned to Buddhist doctrine. You are either a stream enterer or not. That experience of nibbāna is sudden, and delineates ariyas from non-ariyas. But which does the Pāli say here?
I also checked Ānandajoti Bhikkhu’s version. It agrees with Ireland:
Yaṁ bhikkhave mahāsamuddo anupubbaninno, anupubbapoṇo,
That the great ocean, monks, gradually inclines, gradually slopes,
anupubbapabbhāro, nāyatakeneva papāto,
gradually slants, certainly does not have an abrupt falling away,
And
Seyyathā pi bhikkhave mahāsamuddo
Just as the great ocean, monks,
anupubbaninno, anupubbapoṇo,
gradually inclines, gradually slopes,
anupubbapabbhāro, nāyatakeneva papāto,
gradually slants, certainly does not fall away abruptly,
evam-eva kho bhikkhave imasmiṁ Dhammavinaye
so, monks, in this Dhamma and Discipline
anupubbasikkhā, anupubbakiriyā,
there is a gradual training, a gradual performance,
anupubbapaṭipadā, nāyatakeneva aññāpaṭivedho.
a gradual practice, it certainly does not have an abrupt penetration of knowledge.
So can you guys analyse the Pāli to see who is right?
And if Thanissaro is wrong, then is this verse corupted or something? Because it seems to go against the whole principle of stream entry, of all the many stories of the Buddha’s disciples gaining that awakening suddenly, for example while he was teaching, and so on.