On early Buddhism

[Jasudho]

@Dhabba

You do in reality have the view ”I will not be” just like those practioners in the sutta but you choose to instead say that the khandhas have always been selfless from the get go when they finally cease.
That is the only difference between you and those practioners.

Again, not really.
Your assertions about what you believe I’m saying don’t match up with what I’ve been saying.
For one example,

@Dhabba

You do in reality have the view ”I will not be” just like those practioners in the sutta

Fortunately, this is not true.
There is no “I will not be” in cessation. But I’m choosing not to restate prior points.

Regarding the tetralemma, there are many interpretations.
If you haven’t read these posts yet, you may find them interesting.

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What do you think about Ven Thanissaro’s view on Nibbāna?

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